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PLA is considered the de facto national military of China, despite not being an official part of the government. The
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I was meaning more in a context of material that has been produced by their government in relation to methods or values used: how their recruitment works through their use of media and their representation of those values in various media (recruitment poster or television advertisement, to name two).
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Traditionally the personnel would have ridden pandas into battle and had them guarding the country due to their abundance and size. This has since changed since pandas have dropped significantly in population.
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