Talk:Pit bull - Knowledge

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were originally bred for bull baiting, would be factually correct. However, to mention that bull terriers were originally bred for got fighting in the pit bulls wiki page, without also mentioning the subsequent breeding that took place over the last 100+ years, doesn't provide a NPOV. The reader is left with an incomplete history of the pit bull breeding tree that skews them towards a negative connotation. The NPOV, in my opinion is to recognize their history coming from a fighting ancestor, but then also recognize what the UKC and AKC already do, which is they have been bred away from those traits, but still can exhibit them, so socialization on young pit bull pups is important.

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for the author, but I can speculate that its likely that disclaimer is meant to avoid making it appear the university is endorsing a source. The secondary sources are the Britannica pages for the various breeds i mentioned. They also say the same thing about the various breeds that pit bulls encompass. Pit bulls were bred from fighting dogs, not bred for fighting. There is no mass effort by breeders to breed them for fighting, and hasnt for many many years.

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semi-protection for that very reason, because a lot of people rather use this page to push their agenda than to work towards wikipedia's goal of presenting the mainstream viewpoint of academia and reputable organizations on the topic. Also, are you insterested in looking over the heading topic and remdering your thought by chance? Gives us another set of eyes.

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fact, the author clearly states that "pit bulls" contain several breeds, one of which is the APBT, and then goes into talking about how the Pit Bull Terrier has a history of fighting. Clearly the author intended that to apply to the only breed with a history, the APBT, which is why pit bull, or pit bull-type was not used. It made the author factually correct.

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However, Including this within the article causes further confusion between "pit bulls" and the APBT. It also misleads the reader into believing that all pit-bull type dogs were bred to fight, which is factually incorrect. Confusion among the two terms is rampant, as illustrated by an editor above in

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interested. If not, that brings us back to the sentence "Pit bulls were originally bred for bull baiting and dog fighting." I'm seeing arguments both for and against changing it to "Pit bull terriers", and for and against including "dog fighting" in addition to "bull baiting". How do we decide this?

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Consensus shouldn't need to be sought for noncontroversial, widely known facts. It is those that wish to dispute known facts to bring new evidence to be scrutinized to challenge if they disagree with the facts. A good-faith editor would not say "demonstrate consensus" to someone trying to correct to

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I agree. The misuse of pit bull and Pit bull terrier is common, and this Knowledge page unfortunately does not do a great job differentiating the two terms, even though they have their own Knowledge pages. It actually confuses the two terms multiple times within the article. Pit bull breed, could be

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The article would be most factually correct, and have a NPOV if it stated "pit bulls descend from Bull and Terriers, which were bred for bull-baiting and dog fighting. The subsequent breeds were then bred to hunt hogs and be family companions. As a result of their genetic history, pit bulls can have

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Oh I'm sure it does vary, but the page was largely written without a NPOV by users with bias that discredit academia and cling to stats made by self-published blogs already determined by the WP:RS community to he unreliable. If it's not that, it's a 2000 CDC study that the CDC discredited not a year

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Except that historically, it was the Bull Terrier that was originally bred for blood-sport by mixing the Old English Bull Dog with the Old English Terrier. The APBT did not exist until immigrants to the continents brought these dogs over and began breeding them for different purposes. Bull Terriers

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Oh, I cant make simple edits correcting demonstratably false information without gaining concensus first apparently. Even so, I would need to check source material to see if changing the term is sufficient, or if the source is actually talking about the ABPT, in which case it should be removed from

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That is the mainstream, academic, viewpoint that should be presented. The article as currently written has a POV that ignores the 100+ of years that happened after dog fighting and bull baiting lost its prevalence and makes the reader think that pit bulls are the fighting dogs they originated from.

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Amid all the arguing about kennel clubs, I feel like we've lost track of the question of how to write this sentence. Aside from a single editor, I'm not seeing much interest in expanding the amount of text to cover the historical progression of breeding with respect to tendency to fight, but maybe

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Yes, which is to day Cat Fancy is not reliable. However, it says nothing about the AKC. Its also title recommended sources, so just making it on that list says something about the source. I personally wouldn't some things on a recommended list that shares my name it it wasn't quality. I cant speak

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non-profit that advertises purebred dogs and advocates for the commercial interests of dog breeders. It would be like citing Boeing, or better yet, a Boeing lobbyist as the best source for whether the 737 Max is dangerous or not. Here's an example of an opposing advocacy group (HSUS) alleging that

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Oh, you would think that a topic about a breed would be uncontroversial, but unfortunately for those with an bias and are unable to remove themselves from it when making editing decisions, any information that goes against that is controversial, even if it's the mainstream viewpoint. This page has

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Red herring. The AKC may have terrible political view points, but their view points are not the topic. I am not arguing to rely on them for moral or legal opinion on animal law. The topic is whether they're an authority on the topic of dog breeds, which you seemed to support that they were in the

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makes it clear that pit bulls (not "Pit Bull terriers") were bred for bull baiting and dog fighting. The complaint that it was referring to Pit Bull Terriers specifically is a different source, Gunter et al., which has since been removed. Don't confound two different sources. If you would like to

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The American Pit Bull Terrier is not an umbrella term said by the UKC and ADBA also the ABKC they’re a breed bred for blood sport and are prone to dog and animal aggression. They can come in every color but Merle and have a deep and rich history. Some popular apbt breeders are Del Manto Dogs. The

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Ditto on the pay wall issue. However, it would be inaccurate for that source to say it as shown by both AKC and Britannica for several of the breeds that fall under the term pit bull. There is sufficient sources available to refute any claim they were bred for fighting because they weren't. That

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You mean the same breeders that breed the dogs that are the very subject of this wikipedia article? I think you're in the minority there. Most minds would trust a breeder on the history of their dog breed than a doctor... but hey, maybe I'm just way off based here. Anyone else care to give their

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Well, which one is it, do they have a fighting heritage, or were they bred to fight? Spoiler, they have a heritage from fighting (Bull and Terrier) of which, the Bull Terrier, Boston Terrier, American Staffordshire, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and Miniature Bull Terrier, and the American Pitbull

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There author clearly states that Pit Bull Terriers were breed for fighting, which this page is not dedicated to and is irrelevant for all the other breeds that fall into the "pit-bull-type". No where in the study does it mention that Pit Bull Terrier would be used synonymously with pit bulls, in

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Sorry I missed this. I don't believe omitting the dogs fighting ancestors would benefit the reader. Just as I also don't believe it benefits the reader to omit the last 100+ years of breeding the breeds have went through either. A NPOV, in my opinion, would be to mention both. They started were

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American Bully came from a apbt line called “Razor Edge”. There are also books on the breeds history (apbt) “Dogs of Velvet and Steel”. Most Put Bulls found in shelters only share a small percentage of the true apbt potential. They were bred to be animal agressive and for “game” . UKC:

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I diageee, its not a hard topic if feelings and biases get left out, just some have a hard time separating them. The data is out there. Its not perfect though, because there are so many variable that the cost of running a single-variable study for the lifetime of various breeds is not

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of the AKC when you are choosing to accept their affliation when it work for your argument in this dif? Care to elaborate why AKC affiliation bring her any authority on the topic and now the AKC is just a organization that exists to cater to the commercial interest of breeders?

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the pit bulls page as its off topic and better addressed on the APBT page. This page should be specifically for information that pertains, at least multiple breeds that fall under the pitbull breed, but ideally all to stay relvent to the topic and avoid confusing the reader.

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The third paragraph under "Breed-specific legislation" includes the clause "and the American city of Miami" in a list of jurisdictions with "pit bull" bans, but this ban was removed in 2023. I recommend this part of the sentence be removed. (one source for info on this:

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It is incorrect and makes the reader that all breeds identified under the "pit bull" umbrella were bred for bull baiting and dog fighting, which has been demonstrated with references to the UKC and AKC to be false of several of the breeds that fall under the "pit bull"

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The dogs are much more capable of causing damage if they do chose, but it hasn't been shown that their breed is the reason why. Others may self-publish data saying otherwise, but I will just start my own .org and publish the opposite and it would be just as credible.

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The question isn't whether pit bull types have the physical characteristics to potentially cause injury if they attack a person. The question is whether or not pit bull types are inherently behaviorally predisposed to attack people, or if it's a matter of training.

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What reason would be responsible for a type of dog being more capable of causing damage other than the type of breed? Physical make up is what determines the strength of the dog and the breed is what determines the physical make up of a dog.

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I think the AKC and UKC are more reputable sources for breed information than a medical research paper. It appears to be behind a pay wall, but did they source where they obtained that information since it's outside their field of study and

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As an alternative approach, how about changing the sentence to: ""Pit bulls were originally developed from dogs that were bred for bull baiting and dog fighting."? I think that might capture the distinctions that editors are looking for.

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the text sourced to Gunter et al. that said something to the effect that Pit Bull terriers (specifically) may attack other animals because of their dog fighting heritage, or whatever that specific line was, then that is okay with me.

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This is encouraging to hear. The page can definitely use more of a scholarly touch to it. Good luck, a good place to start would be the talk page archives, but I am sure there is more out there that hasn't already been discussed too.

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I'm actually not sure this source says pit bulls were bred for bull-baiting. It's a paywalled source so I cannot copypaste the specific phrase but it says they were descended from 'butcher's dog' which was developed for

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I don't know who added it but I can imagine 'Pit Bull Terrier' being mistaken as 'pit bull'. The same sentence also used the term 'breed', which is erroneous as pit bull is just a categorisation of several breeds.

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So you are saying that because Cat Fancy plagiarized and exhibits claims then the AKC is not reputable? This seems to be an indictment on Cat Fancy that is irrelevant to the reputation or reliability of the

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American Staffordshire Terriers, by contrast, did not have the demands of the fighting pit to steer their evolution. Instead, their breeders focused on uniform appearance and soundness of body and mind.

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It does say the American Staffordshire Terrier, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and American Pit Bull Terrier are descended from fighting dogs used in Staffordshire shortly after the bull-baiting ban.

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Sure seems like the AKC is stating that the American Staffy was bred away from fighting... which last I checked is in direct conflict with your assertion that all "pit bulls" were bred for fighting.

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started from the ancestors of dog/bull fighting and have been breed to be family dogs. However, some can exhibit the former traits, so socialization of pups is important to avoid those traits.

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specifically mentions there has been specific efforts taken in the past to breed away from their fighting roots, which directly in conflict with your statement that "they were bred to fight".

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I adhered to their second point, which is encouraged, but not required, when I cited Briticanna as well. Its in their encyclopedia so a topic like their history shouldn't be controversial.

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A misinformed editor, at one point, added their own opinions into the article, not accurately depicting a study's author, but then citing the study as if the author made that statement.

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Noticeboard 313 Archive regarding the reliability of dogsbite.org, dogbitelaw.com, daxtonsfriends.com, animals24-7.org, nationalpitbullvictimawareness.org, and fatalpitbullattacks.com

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Pretty much nothing in this WP-article is noncontroversial. If two or even one editor reverts you, the whatever is not uncontroversial (or at least not improvement) in their eyes.

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Any data originating from those websites and multiple others like them should not even be included in an article as determined by the Wiki community. I would also check out the

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I think peer reviewed journal papers about dog bite injuries are more reliable than the AKC, an organization that exists to cater to the commercial interests of dog breeders.

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where they state the same thing as the AKC, which is that they're ancestors were bred for fighting, but they have since been bred for a more stable temperament. Lastly,

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uses AKC to determine whether a breed is notable. They also do not list the AKC unreliable on that list. Furthermore, the one source that is determined to be reliable

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Pit bulls, as a group, originated from the Bull and Terriers. You seem to be working backwards in time, rather than starting from the beginning and working forwards.

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Kennel clubs and breed registries can be used to add specific details about the breed’s history to an article but corroboration by secondary sources is encouraged.

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Kennel clubs and breed registries can be used to add specific details about the breed’s history to an article but corroboration by secondary sources is encouraged.

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after it was published. Academia by a huge margin has concluded that the raising of a dog is a much stronger indicator towards its behavior than its breed.

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One reasonable would not say, Doctor A peddled vaccine conspiracy theories, so doctors are not a reputable source when it comes to vaccine information.

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One reasonable would not say, Doctor A peddled vaccine conspiracy theories, so doctors are not a reputable source when it comes to vaccine information.

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OK, thanks. So I think that means we should stick with just saying "Pit bulls". Is there still a reason to remove the part about "dog fighting"? --

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If you see any instances of the article referring to 'pit bull' as a breed you can change the wording. I've already done that for a few examples.

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present a neutrally written summary of existing mainstream knowledge in a fair and accurate manner with a straightforward, "just-the-facts style".

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Agreed, a good-faithed editor can clearly read the source and see that the source is referring to the APBT. Now, why would the wiki article state

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I wouldn't cite a mechanic on the best way to cut an incidion, just as i wouldn't cite a doctor on what part fails the most on a 2005 integra.

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Yes, bit of an odd place for it to be hosted. Under the "Characteristics of the Pit Bull Breed" heading is where it talks about the pit bull.

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breeding stopped over 100 years ago and they have been bred for other purposes now. I'm on mobile so I can't link sources, but they're above.

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used to describe the APBT, but often times, its just used by people ignorant to the topic who think that pit bulls are actually one breed.

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I already removed the source and statement in regards to the pit bull terrier issue. The current sentence is based on another source.

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Also, not to get lost in this is the fact that I did not just source the AKC, but also Briticanna Pages for multiple breeds like this

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Yes, they're a primary source that should not be relied on when reliable secondary sources exist for any claims about the history.

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I strongly encourage student editors to familiarize themselves with the talk page archives of this page, before attempting to make

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is but one of its many members, on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be

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a fighting instinct, which makes it vital that pit bull puppies be socialized well to minimize the effect of that instinct.

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Pit bulls (generic term used to describe dogs that appear to be descendants of the Bull and Terrier) originated from the

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If the article was to be quote accurately, it would read " Pit Bull Terriers were historically bred for fighting".

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And reading what it says there, I think the revised sentence reflects the source quite well. Thanks, everyone. --

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Sure seems as if the AKC is saying they were bred away from their roots and not bred for fighting there.... hmm.

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Specifically, "Pit bulls were originally bred for bull baiting and dog fighting". The source used is here.

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As do I. I also strongly encourage evaluating sources on both sides before coming to a conclusion, and the

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is false. The first sentence of the Britannica article states explicitly that pit bulls are fighting dogs

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were originally bred for bull baiting and dog fighting", because that is what is supported by the source

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I think that'd be fine, the source itself doesn't seem to claim modern breeds were bred for fighting.

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has plagiarised Knowledge twice and the Ragdoll club claims that the breed was born in a laboratory.

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We'll see what happens, course assignment editing varies in quality. And this is a difficult topic.

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No, but it's reasonable to say that therefore a lone doctor's opinion is not inherently reliable.

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between

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I would say it would be a much better improvement than currently exists and reflects accuracy.

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because it presents the reader with misinformation that goes against mainstream knowledge.

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Did you want to update the article with that, or would you rather I do it. Thank you and

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In regards to the original issue, the source is quite clearly referring to the American

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No, I didn't. And it might be better if you would stop personalizing content disputes.

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Pit bulls, as a group, were bred to fight. Nothing you've quoted there disproves that.

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To leave the article in its current state goes against Knowledge's goal, which is to

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as they have done a lot of work too on vetting sources that are more focused to dogs.

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Furthermore, the one source that is determined to be reliable by Cornell University

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Having an ancestor from bull-baiting does not equal being bred to bull-bait.

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No, I said that Coile is an authority on dog breeds. And this is off-topic.

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by Cornell University, lists the AKC as reliable for breeding information.

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If you disagree, please provide a factual and logical argument against it.

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I think you should demonstrate consensus before making any such changes.

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Sir/ma'am, this is the Pit bulls wiki page. Shall I suggest going here:

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about pit bulls, not about your love of pit bulls. We all love our pets!

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How about deleting "...and dog fighting" from the proposed sentence? --

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If there is no further discussion on the topic I will make the edits.

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Breed clubs are not the most reliable source for breed history. The

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Sources should be considered reliable. If in doubt, seek consensus.

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Seems obvious that what should happen is it should be reworded to "

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No endorsement is intended nor implied by listing websites here.

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and commonly referred to as "dogs" and of which the domestic

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diff provided above from a conversation with another user.

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Clearly, its a term that applies to several dog breeds.

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4805246//

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of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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