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It can not be said that acupuncture is effective for migraine, then followed by the data that both 'true' and 'sham' acupuncture are equally effective. 'Sham' acupuncture is not acupuncture at all....it is the 'placebo' for acupuncture. If the 'real' treatment and the placebo have the same effect,
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that what patients group prefer being used (like person-first language) is important. I will link to CHAMP and Migraine Australia as references to why we should remove the word “migraines” from Knowledge in general, but in short, like we never say “asthmas” or “epilepsies”, “migraines” shouldn’t be
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This is pretty basic. A procedure that does not differ in effect from the sham procedure is not an effective treatment. You cannot argue that it works because of the placebo effect. The placebo effect is due to patient belief that is modified by the information provided by the caregiver and thus
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Your opinion may indeed be considered valid by some editors; I personally think that there are large holes in your logic. However, the bottom line is that it does not matter what you or I believe, the section you are commenting on is a direct summary of the conclusions of the highest quality
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used either. All of them are chronic diseases that affect people also when they don’t have an attack (like having to take preventative medicines or avoiding triggers), and the language we use around migraine now, marginalises that.
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Are the people editing/writing articles like this actually qualified doctors or just med students that think they know something, sure they can link to research to state their case, but that doesn't help the reader.
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I think this article should be moved to either “Prevention of migraine” or “Prevention of migraine attacks”. In general, I see that the word “migraines” is used quite often on Knowledge, like in the general
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There are far too many entries using primary sources, and even speculative and inconclusive studies. This is awful. The article needs to be cleaned up and follow our
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Maintaining a headache calendar is useful for patients who need to be on preventative medications. There are paper diaries and electronic diaries such as the
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I have moved this from the lead to here, since it wasn't discussed in the body at all. Maybe it has potential for reinclusion, but not in the lead:
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https://assets.nationbuilder.com/migraineaus/pages/24/attachments/original/1652258816/Migraine_Australia_-_Language_Guide_-_2022_v1.pdf?1652258816
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A lot has changed in the last five years or so. This article is really out of date. It has no mention of CGRP biology or gepants, for example.
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I'm having a go at it, and doing it one edit at a time so any reverts can be individual. Such reverts should be discussed here first. --
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systematic reviews available (at least according to wikipedia) and so to alter the text to suit our own understanding would violate
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Any support for this from other editors? I don't want to get in some sort of editing war with the Acupuncture Gatekeepers Assoc.
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The material on diet can be expanded upon. I have three paragraphs of possible content on my sandbox:
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https://headachemigraine.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/CHAMP_Language_Guide_2019_website.pdf
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https://headachemigraine.org/headache-and-migraine-disease-language-and-image-guide/
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Okay, I've pared it down, but there's probably much more. --
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This section needs to be changed to reflect this reality.
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article, where it’s used 32 times. I also read in the
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