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I knew this would come up. This is an issue where opponents are vocal in their opposition, but proponents, however many there may be, are mostly silent. Believe me, I've been trying to maintain neutrality. I haven't been able to find a single company in support of HB 2 publicly. That's not to say
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that discusses that issue. It confirms that the NC law allows birth certificate changes, but notes that other states might not be so accommodating, so that people born with a different sex in a different state might still have difficulties. However, this page is still inaccurate, as is the
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Thanks; I've made most of these changes, except linking the 'tourism' and 'international criticism' sections (the latter of which contains the UK's warning to potential tourists).
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