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Schwarzschild radius. There is observational evidence that a large finite size star is contained in a black hole: Some super massive black holes have been observed spinning at about 1/10 RPM, which implies a star of very large radius. The existance of an about 0.82 Schwarschild radius star, instead of a conventional black hole point singularity, would probably mean the end of the conventional big bang model as coming from a point singularity. If 2 approximately equal mass 0.82 Schwarzchild radius stars merged the contents would be expected to be ejected at the speed of light from the contact point. This model could explain where our inflationary universe came from. It could also explain a possible ancient explosion at the center of M87.
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I think it first and foremost belongs to the article on quark matter and strange quark matter respectively. It can be fitted in here as well, but it would need a solid explanation on how quark stars contribute with nuggets. They would indeed do if they exist in the first place, but it would need an
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