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Yes, the ownership and where the trademarks landed have been horse-traded through the years, the car business was spun out into a separate entity and sold to
Vickers, etc, etc, etc and the aero business remains the most directly-derived business from the original 1904 Ltd. But it's hardly fair to
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call the car business a "spin off". It was the founding and core business for 50 years! It retains top-10 global brand recognition alongside the likes of Coca Cola. And that's important in establishing things like
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