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This report was reviewed by Dr Guy Van Hazel, Clinical Professor School of Medicine and Pharmacology, University of Western Australia, who expressed the view that much of the report was, “Basically a – what seems to be an advertisement for alternative medicine”. Professor Van Hazel went on to state
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Dr Dingle placed considerable reliance on what was described as the “Moss Report” at the inquest. It appears that the author, Ralph Moss PhD, has available on the internet access to a number of sites dealing with various medical conditions, the relevant one being "the Moss Reports Rectum". This
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I agree that this article can probably be improved, as an encyclopedic biography, by focusing more on the content of independent, reliable sources. Personally, I think an encyclopedic, well-sourced stub would be preferable to a longer article that relies heavily on self-published material.
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I'm concerned that much of the sources are basically self published by the subject of the article. A lot of the information seems to be not all that notable as part of an encyclopedia article - why exactly is it important to list the location of clinics he's visited?
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Regarding sources, it appears that the Moss Reports were mentioned in the coroner's inquest into the death of Penelope Dingle, an Australian woman who died of rectal cancer after declining potentially curative medical therapy in favor of alternative approaches:
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I've had a really hard time trying to find independent sources discussing him; most books/websites/etc. are true-believer alt med sources. I've therefore stubbed down most of the self-published material until we find more independent sources.
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I'm not sure whether this is suitable for the article, as it's a bit tangential and arguably a primary source, but given the profound lack of reliable, independent third-party sources in this article I thought I'd raise the question here.
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article (leaving this as a redirect), since much of the third-party coverage, such as it is, deals with Moss' role in the Sloan-Kettering laetrile controversy.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
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report had been downloaded by Dr Dingle at considerable cost and was repeatedly referred to by him in his evidence.
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Alternately, much of the notable information here could be covered in the history section of our
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that the report was both unreliable and out of date as well as being full of factual errors. (
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