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5627:" is such a fundamental aspect of not just nearly every culture and civilization in the world today, but so many previous cultures and civilizations, going back thousands of years, even ones where only a small percentage of the population could actually do it. It is the thing that you are doing right now that is the reason we are even able to communicate our opinions to each other and have a discussion about this. I see that the last time this came up two and a half years ago, there were some who objected based on the existence of a couple of places - one in England and the other in Pennsylvania. These places are not insignificant, it is true. However, I would argue that the concept of reading is so utterly fundamental in its importance, so worldwide in its interest, that it would overwhelm even Athens and Rome in how significant it is, and Reading, Berkshire and Reading, Pennsylvania are nowhere near as important as Athens and Rome. Not even close. " 5599:
Apple's case, the fruit is a hugely encyclopedic and important topic, much more so than this "reading" article, and its competition is a corporation that has been around a mere 30 years. The reading (process) article isn't as encyclopedic/important as Apple-the-fruit, and multiple cities with hundreds of years of history that will assuredly have hundreds of years more have a better assurance of long-term significance than Apple Inc. So yes, it's a useful comparison, but it's the start of the argument, not the end. I'm not sold that pageviews, the "default" decider of such primary topic wars, has been overturned here. It is perfectly common for core, fundamental ideas of human existence to have disambiguation pages at their base name;
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that you are doing right now that is the reason we are even able to communicate our opinions to each other and have a discussion about this. I see that the last time this came up two and a half years ago, there were some who objected based on the existence of a couple of places - one in England and the other in Pennsylvania. These places are not insignificant, it is true. However, I would argue that the concept of reading is so utterly fundamental in its importance, so worldwide in its interest, that it would overwhelm even Athens and Rome in how significant it is, and Reading, Berkshire and Reading, Pennsylvania are nowhere near as important as Athens and Rome. Not even close.
5652:. Apparently you weren't. You seem to be conflating two similar-but-distinct things: Reading-the-topic and Reading-the-Knowledge (XXG)-article. Reading-the-topic is important, and you don't need to convince me how important it is or quote flowery statements about the importance of reading. I already agree with all that. However, Knowledge (XXG) policy as well as this debate are on Reading-the-Knowledge (XXG)-article. All of my above comments are on the article, but you seem to be interpreting them as on the general topic. Disambiguation is not strictly done by comparing an importance-o-meter on the underlying topic, lest the likes of 4818:" in and on itself, unquestionably means literal reading, unqualified. No society, culture or civilization that can claim they don't know "reading," in fact reading is so fundamental to literacy that without it we couldn't be here at all even if Reading, Berkshire is the capital of the world. There's also a particular argument I want refute: in the previous move request a claim was made that Knowledge (XXG) is not dictionary and this remained unchallenged giving it semblance of validity. The argument looks meaningful on the surface but it's thoroughly hollow in content and forgets the spirit of why NOTDIC was written. 229: 5824:. Reading (process) fails both primary topic tests. Page views show that many readers are looking for one of the towns. They may not even have considered the literacy meaning, especially as the words are pronounced differently. As Reading, Berkshire dates from the 8th century, its significance is also long-term. On a more practical note, the status quo helps editors to find and fix wikilinks to the "wrong" Reading, thus keeping everything correctly linked up for our readers. 682: 650: 4562:
significance. Both cities could fall into big sinkholes tomorrow, and lots of people would be sad, and some regional economies updated for a while, but in a couple of generations it would be dimly remembered historical curiosity. If a virus tomorrow wiped out the human capacity for reading, we'd be plunged into a second stone age (or maybe bronze age if we were lucky) within one generation and we wouldn't recover for centuries at least.
388: 283: 367: 262: 501: 476: 584: 6704: 5109:- it's not even the most-read "Reading" article. The Berkshire locale is. This proposed move will make it more difficult for our readers and editors to navigate our encyclopedia. If you want a better disambiguator, try "(cognitive process)" or "(activity)". But don't make the encyclopedia harder to use. (Btw, I'd love to see the outcome of a special redirect experiment such as that suggested by 810: 2485:
to that's untrue, myopia is "genetics". There has been research conducted that reading or more specifically intelligence is linked to myopia, and they are hypothesizing that reading is the genetic trigger to myopia; for example, just has your muscles adapt when they are used, you eyes will reshape and thus refocus to the distance you view things at the most. Anyway, here are some links
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unambiguous "reading." So your comment and effort you made in fixing those dablinks are both another points on why this move should be made, so that henceforth anyone who link to "reading" will link to correct place per natural expectation. If this succeeds I will surely help as much as I can in resolving them, but number of dablinks shouldn't be barrier to rectifying anomaly. –
574: 547: 3622:. In short written titles, the (broad) geographical sense is not distinguishable from the action of comprehending writing. That makes this just ambiguous enough to justify the present location of the disambiguation page. Note that this page definitely needs a better parenthetical disambiguator in the title, but the present move request can't really cover this effectively. 220: 4864:: Just to point out a couple of issues with the statements made by nominator: 1) the 2015 discussion did not end with no consensus. There was a consensus for no move. 2) the closing admin in 2015 came to the opposite conclusion about quality of arguments stating, "I note that oppose !votes invoked policy and evidence, whereas some support !votes give no real rationale." 398: 6572:
Some of the sections, such as "Reading skills" and "Assessment" are better covered elsewhere. And, some potions should be transfer elsewhere. The entire opening paragraphs have no citations, but perhaps the wiki-links are meant to cover that. Overall I found about 23 instances without citations; so it appears to lack sufficient credibility, or usefulness.
6602:. This would enable our readers to find information more easily. It may be that many readers go to Reading when they really want more in-depth information about reading acquisition or teaching reading, etc., and don't know where to find it. Many readers, perhaps a majority, read Knowledge (XXG) on a smart phone so they may not see the "Reading" menu. 6152:- would you mind reconsidering your !vote based on the following: 1) it's been shown that the Berkshire town article overall gets more views than the process article, and especially when you add in the Pennsylvania article and others, there's no way that the process article gets more views than the other "Reading" articles combined, as called for at 2150:"The Only Way Students Learn to Read English As a result, the ONLY way students can learn to read English is to learn the spelling of all 20,000 or more words in their reading vocabulary one-at-a-time by rote memory or by repeated use of the word. This learning can come through either the phonics or partially through the whole word teaching method." 759: 4784:
over and needs no qualifying, but anything else do need one before it could be understood. In fact, whatever is named "reading", it must have gotten that inspiration from actual "reading". I perused the above two discussions in 2013 and 2015 and found the arguments forwarded not only lacking in policy-based reasons but hollow and essentially
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enough to do research peer reviewed research to supportthe existing Dyalexia Article and sub articles, and do not have the time to carry out the major revision that the many of the reading articles in the Reading Category require. So It ti time for you to stop criticsing from the side lines and begin to do some real editing work.
3008:. This editor's contributions are always well provided with citations, but examination of these sources often reveals either a blatant misrepresentation of those sources or a selective interpretation, going beyond any reasonable interpretation of the authors' intent. I searched the page history, and found 3 edits by Jagged 85 in 293: 2142:
countries, and looking at the list by literacy rate, I see no correlation between writing system and literacy rates. Clearly, the type of writing system is not the main predictor of literacy. I propose that the argument for changing the spelling of English be deleted, or at the very least moved to an appropriate section.
5419:'s comments above. While I agree the reading process is an encyclopedic topic (this is not a NOTADICT issue), the bottom line is when someone searches with the term "reading", they are not that likely to be looking for the topic about the process; they are more likely to be looking for any one of the other topics named 4595:("highly likely—much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term"), there clearly isn't one here. The different pronunciations are unfortunately not able to be conveyed visually. 11:56, 1 December 2015 (UTC) 6170:
I'm unconvinced that the process is not primary as I agree with the OP that "literal reading has greater cultural significance and perpetual notability than any other term". The places may have some relevance in some parts of the UK and US but the reading process has global relevance and I think that
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Just to clarify something, the number of page views for each article is not 1-to-1 with the number of times readers tried to reach that article through the single term "reading". For all we know, and I rather suspect it's the case, most of the users that were looking for the Berkshire article started
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the long-term significance criterion. The guideline goes on to say that where the two criteria indicate different (or no) primary topics, then discussion is required to determine whether and which is the primary topic - they even use Apple/Apple Inc. as the example for that kind of discussion! Please
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and expected it to go to the Berkshire article. Neither the 2008 move nor a move now would have any bearing on the number of those instances. The difference is that as things currently stand there are tools which alert us to when a disambiguation page starts having a high number of incoming links and
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has greater cultural significance and perpetual notability than any other term in the now weird disambiguation page. The foremost and unambiguous usage of "reading" everywhere in the world, in the past century, the present and future is reading first, then anything else behind. It's the default world
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I still prefer "literacy". To me, it is broad, and includes musical literacy, ancient hieroglyphic literacy, even pictographs and simple code or sign reading. Oddly, "literacy" has a broadness far exceeding that of "literature". "Cognition" has too much to do with mental processing of the information
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Guys, I don't know you, but I think the picture of the dude reading does not really add any particular value to the article beyond the aesthetic one (that implying he is aesthetic if at all). IMO this picture should be removed. Furthermore, it seems to me this picture was added for some personal fame
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The first step revision has taken place, all sections have been revised to a more logical order. Furthermore most images of people reading has been commented out; they are interesting and appealing, but they are also unnecessary for the relevance of this article. They however would be perfect for a
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Also, I've seen some sets of related articles that use nice info boxes that point users directly to closely related topics, in context of the main article rather than at the bottom. I put together a strawman to illustrate the idea and would like for interested editors to take a look and see what you
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Studies have shown that American children who learn to read by the third grade are less likely to end up in prison, drop out of school, or take drugs. Adults who read literature on a regular basis are nearly three times as likely to attend a performing arts event, almost four times as likely to visit
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The main thing that I want to emphasize here is that the article is very disorientating, with varied level of detail and information. In my opinion, the article structure would make readers very confused and not knowing the general gist (especially for an article for reading itself). Looking through
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I see where you're coming from here, but "literacy" seems like too narrow a scope to me. "Literacy" refers exclusively to the written word, but the article also covers the reading of musical notation and of pictograms. Also, the term "literacy" implies a certain level of skill in the reader, but the
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This not a perceived problem but a real problem as from your commnets you seem to have very litle idea about how humans first learn to speak, and then have to learn how to interpret the visual notation of speech adopted by their culture, which is called reading. Unless you have a full understanding
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There are additional problems in the intelligences section. I don't have time to address them right now, but simply, the "intelligences" listed are not "intelligences" as envisioned by the Howard Gardener's theory. Verbal-linguistic, visual-spatial, and mathematical-logical are mislabled and there
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Yes, I've heard of eye damage, myopia, eye strain, and so on before. So far the information I'm heard is - well - it's controversial. For instance, public perception has it that myopia is caused by reading - especially reading in the dark where there is eye strain; however, from a physician I spoke
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Perhaps another way to approach this would be to say that the correlation is firmly established, but that at least some researchers and statisticians suspect a causative relationship between reading failure and increased rates of poverty, need of public assistance, high birth rate, death (due partly
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The page for subvocalization and this one contradict. I subvocalize when I read and I have had the reading level of a 12 grader since I was in 7th grade. Others I know also subvocalize and they excel in reading just as much as I do. I'm sorry but that information is heavily biased and promotes speed
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I would go a step further. This isn't just a "biased section"; it's vandalism, plain and simple. There is absolutely no way that this extraordinary rant can be integrated into the rest of the article; this is self-evident, and doesn't require any extensive soul-searching on our part to determine. As
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I am aware of the many contributions made towards this article. However, it seems to me that our readers would be better served if the material was put in other articles (Literacy, Learning to read, Educational assessment, etc.). If so, it would be easier to maintain credible, encyclopedic content.
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I'm breaking this into a new section so as not to disrupt the move discussion. IF the result above is not to move, would any editors object to running a redirect experiment in order to determine exactly how many users actually travel from the disambiguation page to the most common Reading articles?
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belief that reading is "more important" means that it is also the primary topic is also "pure conjecture." It is undeniably correct that in some cases, the community has deemed a lower-pageview topic to still be the primary topic, but this needs to be defended or explained on specific grounds. In
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the primary topic. It is not plausible that two cities named reading are "at least as important" as the human capability of absorbing knowledge from the written word. Please. As the nom already covered, view rates of articles (the "popularity contest") doesn't tell us anything about global, lasting
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Many of the descriptions throughout this article ignore Braille as a non-visual language, for example from the last part of the introduction, "The common link is the interpretation of symbols to extract the meaning from the visual notations." This implies that blind individuals who are literate in
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Another common meaning of "reading" is picking up on social cues to detect information beyond the meaning of words. Even the standing definition could apply to much more than written language: "Reading is a complex cognitive process of decoding symbols for the intention of constructing or deriving
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Good question; I was looking for information on a similar topic. I recently read a statement that reading on a computer screen was only 60% as fast as reading on paper (and the article specifically mentioned the Kindle). I think this is completely false and was disappointed to see that no reference
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This article seems to be a mishmash of information, indicated by the fact that "Reading speed" is the second topic and "Miscellaneous" has a large place. I think it makes sense to reorganize the information according to the domains of literacy: phonological awareness, phonics, fluency, vocabulary,
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thing that matters, which again is how many users end up on the Reading dab page that were looking for each article, seems to have been determined by an experiment just a few years ago and it looks like the cities had enough traffic to make the process not primary by that metric. So, I withdraw my
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the move to an unquestionably more important usage than the locations, on the basis that people who think town articles with that name—they couldn't care less about and will never edit or visit— can nevertheless be used to advance some fractious agenda. Anyone without skin in some game on a policy
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is, well, reading. It is such a fundamental aspect of not just nearly every culture and civilization in the world today, but so many previous cultures and civilizations, going back thousands of years, even ones where only a small percentage of the population could actually do it. It is the thing
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Also, I think a useful section or subheading would be addressing the impact the internet has had on reading. There are tons of popular press articles on the topic (eg Nicholas Carr, "Is Google Making Us Stupid?", and NY Times, "R U Really Reading?"). There is also a fair bit of research on how the
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It seems to me that the content is still quite random. For example, why does the main section "Overview" contain comments about horizontal scrolling and contrast? That seems to not fit there, and also to be an opinion, not a statement of fact. I'd like to remove it and some other extraneous parts,
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There is a further clear relationship between reading failure frequently being the result of learning disabilities, which cuts across socioeconomic lines. History of difficulty in school -- failure to learn, and especially failure to learn to read, results in shame and poor self image, rejection
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So you're reusing my argument. Mine is not conjecture, I explained it with verifiable evidence from the start. Probably you didn't read my nomination statement well in hastiness to comment. Then your claim that "reading" is less important than Apple is even more risible now. Just let me quote one
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The problem with a benefits section is that it will promote the false notion that all are cognitively able to read effectively, and that alternative forms of communication are not required for those who need to use the various alternative forms of communication. Tis problem can be seen as society
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To try to clarify what Red Slash and Powers are saying to you, the stats you've listed are simply page views. They do not indicate in any way how the viewer arrived at the page. Red Slash is doubting how many of the views for Berkshire came about by a user typing in 'Reading', arriving at the DAB
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category as most are more opinion based using non peer reviewd books rather than peer review based research to substanciate and support their claims. So you it appears to be an editor who calims to be a reading expert, so It should be your role to improve this mess in the reading category, I have
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The entire section headed "Skill Development" seems to be an argument for altering the standard spelling of English words to a phonetic system. It is an opinionated rant. Why is this under "Skill Devlopment"? The claim that the problem is the language itself rather than inadequate education is
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I don't know of any online guides to reading by computer screen. I set the fonts that seem most comfortable to me. I don't have a Kindle, but do have a Nokia N800, and read using something called FBreader, though I have also had good results on a desktop computer with Microsoft Reader and Rudenko
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I think you in fact have missed the point that Certes is alluding to, although in fairness they didn't say it explicitly. The big difference between how things were and how things are now is that before as soon as 1 or 2 links to the disambiguation page had been created the page would show up at
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Thought: Because most users use Google and Google is very good at landing users directly on the desired page, page view counts in general are reasonably accurate at telling us the relative popularity of each page associated with a given search term, and therefore quite accurate at telling us the
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per Dohn Joe's pageview links. This just isn't the primary topic by pageviews, not particularly close to it, and while reading-text is certainly a fundamental idea etc., many people are only interested in the surface-level dictionary definition and don't need this article, which is why it's not
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The reason why those disambiguation links accumulated was because of the anomaly of this naming when it was unilaterally moved in 2008. Had it stayed, that couldn't have happened at that tempo. By default, linking to "reading," any average editor will expect it to lead to "reading," the literal
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The rationale is that the common English word is the topic that most of our readers would expect to find at that name. Anyone who was looking for the city under that name would not be surprised; they'd say "Oh, of course! That makes sense that this article is about reading; I'll have to be more
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I re-added the book published by Harvard, under the rereading paragraph. It helps establish the concept and term as being notable beyond just a casual sense, and it is one of few academic works published on the subject. The book goes beyond just listing an authors favorite books, it examines the
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I second your proposition; this article seems very confusing and needs revision - there's simply too much information compressed into too little of a space. I can start by rearranging the sections and cleaning up the text, but that will be a while - in the time in between some comments would be
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Assumption: Google is very good at landing users directly on their sought wp article (skipping our dab pages). This was the point I was making with the Mercury example - while the page view count for the dab page is so relatively low. Most people use Google to search with "mercury" and see the
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The vast majority use Google to search which takes them directly to the WP article they're seeking - so page view counts reflect quite accurately actual relative interest in pages. That's why, for example, the page view counts for the Mercury dab page are relatively low even though it as at the
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of what we are looking for, rather than the actual figure itself, which would be how many users tried to reach the article by just using "reading". And I believe far more users, relatively speaking, are having to go through disambiguation while looking for the process article than the Berkshire
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Move discussions are binary. It's either consensus for move or no consensus for move, that's true always. Everything in between is superficial. I am talking of the situation in whole including the 2008 one-man discussion and the subsequent ones not just fixating on whether the closer typed "no
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Anything on how far something you're reading should be away from you? or if it is damaging to your eyes to read in the dark? I hear that reading in the dark actually doesn't damage or strain your eyes; and reading something in front of you should be around a foot away. Any research/information?
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Assumption: The desired article of the minority of users who are searching on WP with a given term is probably distributed about the same as are users who search with that term on Google. There is no way to know how close those distributions are, much less what to do if they were significantly
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I think that despite the cities having similar view counts as the process, even readers searching for those cities most likely don't expect to find them at the base title "Reading". Also, as this discussion has taken place multiple times over multiple years, would it not be prudent to run an
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Has the author looked at the Knowledge (XXG) entry for the list of countries by literacy rate? The Reading entry also seems to claim that "Chinese picture-writing symbols" are easier to learn to read than English words. The literacy rate in China is lower than that of most English-speaking
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All of the reading Artiles on wiki lack consistancy, tend to be single country orientated, and therefore lack a global view. There needs to be reading by country catergory to reflect the skill requirments of different writing systsm and the different orthographies whith each writing system.
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The reasoning to place the disambiguation first is to give the reader the power to choose which definition of "reading" to use rather than narrowing them to simply "interpreting symbols to construct meaning". This exposes them to other possible definitions that would otherwise be hidden or
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As someone who lives in the British Isles and is mainly interested in geography even I agree that this is UK geo centric, however I don't think its location is the main reason, just that its a large town (the largest non city in its country), gets a lot of views and is the capital of
2185:"Speed reading courses and books often encourage the reader to continually speed up; comprehension tests lead the reader to believe their comprehension is constantly improving. However, competence in reading involves the understanding that skimming is dangerous as a default habit." 4656:
was put under assessment, making wikilinks to reading rate stop working. I'm moving it back into its own section, under reading skills, since it is not just a means of assessment. The inscrutable note was actually part of the diagram caption and refers to data in the diagram.
4928:. The act of reading is indeed a supremely notable, educationally valuable, and fundamental concept, and one that clearly merits primary topic status. It's also worth noting that the current title clarifier is not just unnecessary but also ambiguous, since something like 5744:
The point is that "Reading" most often is understood in English to refer to the process rather than the capital of Berkshire, even though people in Berkshire might think this if being referred to first when seeing it, the general global audience will think of the process.
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The proposal is well-stated and argued, but opposing statements were well argued as well. In closing this request, I note that oppose !votes invoked policy and evidence, whereas some support !votes give no real rationale. In summation, consensus is against this move.
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You hear a lot about the benefits of reading (especially being read to as a young child), including as it relates to future academic success. I think this definitely merits mention in the article. Anybody have access to academic databases that contain studies on this?
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usage criteria. The addition of the bs "historical significance" criteria to primary topic is one of the worst policy changes WP has ever seen, and results in enormous waste of time like this proposal. The bottom line is this: when people search WP with "reading"
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they can be quickly fixed, while there are no tools available that tell us if an editor simply links to an article they didn't mean to and so there would be extra work required to watch the primary topic article for mistaken incoming links if the move succeeds.
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the mental processing of the information. But anyway, given the disagreement here and the nature of the discussion so far, this is probably best left for a future move request. (Maybe we could open one straight away if this closes with a "no consensus".) —
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What "first comes to mind", to anyone, is irrelevant. What matters is whether the process "is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for"
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Readers would surely often use the upper case when searching for the Berkshire one, I would personally use upper case for searching for both, in a way its a shame we can't use DIFCAPS (as pointed out in the last RM) but that guideline is disputed anyway.
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mentioned. Any others that someone would like considered? I'm not sure if there's standard practice (and I suspect there isn't, since this isn't that common) for the actual title of the special redirects, but I'll maybe ask on the disambiguation project
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to search for "reading", saw what they wanted in the suggestions, and went straight there. Those users would not be affected in any way by us moving the process to the base name. I'm not saying that page views should be ignored, just that they are an
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It's bogus because there's no coherent rationale for picking this one topic as primary over the others. Most primarytopic claim RMs are similarly bogus, from people who just don't like disambig pages and prefer to put the ambiguity into the titles.
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of all of these issues and have them presented in global terms in the appropriate Knowledge (XXG) articles, then the content of well researched related Knowledge (XXG) does not relate to these less well researched articles. So the well researched
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Thought: Because Google is already very good at getting its users to the page they seek and that's all out of our control, even though WP searchers are the minority, making sure the WP search process works well for WP searchers must be our main
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at "Reading," (and rightly, will never be). So the fact that link was incorrect has no relation with this move whatsover. If that link was there for the past 10 years, it has been incorrect since so, it didn't became so today as you're wrongly
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is a disambiguation, or they check every link they add (I try to but it can be tiresome, and I doubt many others do this), there will be a lot of links to fix. Your user page is a perfect example: "This user appears to be able learn though
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does, and we still keep it as primary topic. The concept of reading is so far more important that it defies comprehension. If Reading were located anywhere outside of the British Isles, there's literally no way we'd even be debating this.
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WP:PTOPIC: "A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that
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They may be especially useful for the "science of reading" sections and anything mentioning brains or cognition. Some sources also have decent coverage of cross-language transfer with comparisons to native readers' skills and cognition.
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is a disambiguation page, not a redirect to cooking. This is not a problem. Disambiguation pages are fine, there's no harm being done, and as a counterpoint to your Apple example, there are plenty of cases where there's a topic with :
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as the former got 4x the number of views for the latter consistently for several years, but it wasn't so because respect for enduring significance, AT policy and common sense prevailed. Another point to consider is that the current name
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expecting to get the city. (Doubtlessly pronunciation has something to do with this.) I finally agree that by pageviews, at least, we have no primary topic. Any future move request would have to rely more on the second criteria at
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consistently since creation but it was determined to not be primary topic despite its high popularity and the fact that more people are actually looking for the tech company when they search the unqualified term. Then your claim
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and you can see what the page contains. So if there's a town/city named "Inedible" then it will surely be primary topic notwithstanding the word. I hope the community will rectify this anomaly, and the sooner the better for us.
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Reading may refer to the computer acquisition of information, the mechanism in which bills are introduced, certain people, and places. To provide a more flexible position for the disambiguation page, I believe that this article
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You think that the town is just as significant as a process that is known to just about everyone. Reading goes on everywhere, including in Reading, Berkshire. The 163,000 figure is just for the borough, the town actually has
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My point is, there is clearly a case to be made for causation, and the research /statistics supporting this line of thought should be included in the article with notation that this is not proven but suspected, at least by
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Speed reading information I've seen stresses comprehension, with that in mind I do not understand how speed reading could be considered dangerous as a default habit. It'd be a good idea to explain this fully or remove it
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and amassed together they gave the discussion usual fate of no consensus, which should have reverted to the actual first used title, but wasn't done. It is noteworthy that, if we follow appeal to pageview argument then
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an art museum, more than two-and-a-half times as likely to do volunteer or charity work, and over one-and-a-half times as likely to participate in sporting activities, according to Jamie Littlefield on charityguide.org.
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I changed the wording of the overview section to be neutral regarding how much printed word is read as opposed to electronic displays. To say that "most" reading is still of the printed word would need a citation. --
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the article, some sections need simplifying (Teaching reading), while others need clean up (The Reading Wars: phonics vs. whole language). There is no consistency here. I suggest that the article needs to follow the
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So you have to first weigh them for their long-term significance and eternity of notability, if the result is clear then the remaining process is needless, just as the case here is and the same process that reserve
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There will always be some links to the wrong article on the wiki because people are too lazy to check their links, or even to think through where their links probably go. Also, is this where you meant to put this
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found that the cities had sufficient traffic through the disambiguation page that the process couldn't be considered primary. In that case I'm perfectly willing to accept the results of such a recent experiment.
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Seriously though, using a tool to determine the best outcome is unhelpful, reading past the wikilawyering and !votes is what needs to happen in forming a legitimate view . I won't lose any sleep either way, but
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is long-term significance, for topics with "substantially greater enduring notability and educational value", even if another topic by that name gets viewed more often. That's why, to give just a few examples,
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If there are no objections, I will split off the Science of reading subsection so it is a separate article. Then I will reduce the subsection in the Reading article and I will add details to the new article.
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for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that
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become primary topics. And "Apple" the fruit has more than 4x the pageviews of Reading (process), so my claim is hardly "risible" if interpreted as I meant it - a statement about the relative importance of
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Per our naming conventions, none of those could be named "Reading". If the AP Style guide adds Reading PA, we can choose one as the primary topic, but now, reading as in reading a book is clearly primary.
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different. It might be off in one direction for one article, and in another direction for the next, but in the end it probably averages out, so for all these reasons it's a reasonable assumption to make.
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narrowly focuses on text based communication and fails to provide the alternative methods of communicating their message for those who need them, and promotes purely selfish and discriminatory attitude.
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I started a new section called "Goals of reading". Most of the information come from Mortimer J Adler's How to Read a Book, but the section certainly needs work.--ThomasMagnus 21:26, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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Thought: since most users search with Google, dab pages at base names should get relatively low page view counts. However, they do tell us something about the ratio of WP searchers vs Google searchers.
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is likely to be assumed to be about the place. Finding yourself at what may be considered (erroneously) a mere dictionary word is likely to be confusing. A DAB page is least likely to confuse. --
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And this interpretation is further quite plausible: Educated, more intelligent families tend to have children who avoid behaviors that result in prison time, etc., and who are more cultured, etc.
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utterly unsubstantiated in the article. The author of this section evidently learned to read - so did I, and we managed to do it despite the bizarre and inconsistent quirks of English spelling.
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Li H, Zhang J, Ding G. Reading across writing systems: A meta-analysis of the neural correlates for first and second language reading. Bilingualism: Language and Cognition. 2021;24(3):537-548.
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Looks like you're unfamiliar with how disambiguation works here at Knowledge (XXG). After reaching the disambiguation page readers will then choose the page they are looking for. With stats as
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and reading comprehension (the latter should probably be subdivided, perhaps into comprehension processes and knowledge). If there is no objection, I'll do that sometime in the next week.
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agrees with my gut feeling: both get about the same amount of traffic. Considering only those two, in the last month: 50.6% for the process and 49.4% for the town; and on 9 days there were
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I still think it's important for us to come to an understanding of each other on this issue, because it applies to many articles, not just this one. Here are my thoughts and assumptions.
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was included. I have done lots of computer reading and am going to finish Gone with the Wind within the next hour, having started a few days ago, not reading continuously, of course.
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Learning to read, stages to skilled reading could be on the same article. Teaching reading should be its own article due to length. Science of reading could be its own article.
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It's not implausible, either, that reading might very well *cause* the effects noted. But that is not what the cited article claims. It just claims that children who read are
4609:, this would be an obvious move), but since it shares its spelling with several major topics pronounced "redding", we can't say that it's more important than everything else. 3564:. The extremely wide usage, and the page hit statistics indicate to me it would be preferable for readers for the process to be so identified for the sake of disambiguation. -- 6120:
gets the most page views on Knowledge (XXG) and brings up the most search entries in a Google search. As Ammarpad said, the places' names are likely derived from the process.
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Prompted by a recent addition, I checked the whole list but I couldn't find anything that isn't either irrelevant or has some sort of axe to grind. A strict application of
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for a term with respect to long-term significance if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term.
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for a term with respect to long-term significance if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term.
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The content of this article seems very random. The topics don't seem to relate to one another, and sections seem to be unmatched in the level of detail they present.
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70% of views, and a disambiguation page is STILL used as the landing point for the topic (often comes up with fictional characters that share names with real people).
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on the disambiguation page and we use the traffic through that redirect as an indicator of how many readers who arrive at the DAB page continued on to the process page?
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history section and posses potential for a new article. Next step is improving the wording and consistency of this article, in addition to adding a "History" section.
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I see your useful statistics. I also fully recognize that we're dealing with a reasonably important city as the leading secondary claimant to the title. But I feel
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I think you've misunderstood the comment. bd2412 is saying that while disambiguating links they have come across very many instances where an editor simply linked
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I'm thinking we need to revisit the content of the entire article, and consider covering the topic at a very high level with sub-articles providing the details.
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to illiteracy impeding good health care -- e.g., decreased ability to take medications as directed due to illiteracy, etc) imprisonment, recidivism, and so on.
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redirecting to it? Absurd. We've never done that, outside of a few outliers, and you know it... and I really wish you'd cease your crusade to change that.
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Um, pageviews is one of the principal ways to determine primary topic by usage, according to the very same guidance page you quoted from in your nomination:
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seem questionable to me and are unsourced. I don't think these sentiments have either scientific support or are in accord with the views of most educators.
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is no "auditory" intelligence identified by the theory. Further the intelligences listed are mischaracterized. This section is in need of a lot of love.
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skill development (but only discusses initial reading acquisition -- doesn't address acquiring skills related to the types discussed in Types of Reading)
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at the top with it, but almost nobody has even heard of it - in fact the majority of the world probably wouldn't even know where Berkshire was! We have
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consensus" or not. On second point, the vote claimed to invoke policy actually didn't, it was appeal to popularity/pageview and the rest piled on it. –
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Per Huwmanbeing the fact that a good disambiguator doesn't appear to exist is also surely a consideration. We should however include a direct link to
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The solution to your perceived problem is for you to add "missing" information from other countries, not to balkanize the reading-related articles.
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and be very promptly fixed. Now in order to catch these wrong links someone has to take it upon themselves to periodically view the newest links to
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by long-term significance. Long before Reading was founded, people were reading; people will still be reading long after Reading is gone. Goodness,
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Yes it doesn't meet PT#1 but the long-term significance criteria is clearly met and no one looking for the towns would be surprised to end up here.
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It's just a statistical fluke that this particular tool has more page views for the process in the past 20 days. If you take the exact same search
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But a glance at the Littlefield article cited indicates that no "effects" have been shown at all. Rather, it appears to claim nothing more than
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choices of element, planet, mythological figure in the results, etc. and click on whichever one they seek. So they never even see the dab page.
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This is same appeal to pageview argument which I refuted from onset. It's been made clear, pageview is not what solely determine primary topic.
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per the "long-term significance" criterion of PRIMARYTOPIC. The act of reading long predates Reading and will most likely outlive it as well. --
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Chan, Martin Luther. 2024. "Learning to Read in Hebrew and Arabic: Challenges and Pedagogical Approaches" Education Sciences 14, no. 7: 765.
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It doesn't matter, the others are trivial (and "the computer acquisition of information, the mechanism in which bills are introduced" are both
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is a religious concept and not a movie. For this reason, I propose that the topic with the greatest long-term significance when it comes to
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page, and then proceeding to the Berkshire page. It doesn't mean that the stats are irrelevant, just that they don't show the entire picture.
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talk page, charged debates with teams making outlandish assertions and accusations without reference to RS and V, would think the same. —
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Kim, S.Y., Cao, F. How does the brain read different scripts? Evidence from English, Korean, and Chinese. Read Writ 35, 1449–1473 (2022).
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Assumption: Most users use Google to search and land on our articles. A relative minority uses the internal WP search (aka WP searchers).
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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to have the cited qualities: this is the same as claiming *correlation* -- something far easier to infer from data than is *causation*.
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I agree and was struck by the apparent bias of that section, so I have added a POV marker to that section. Various statements such as
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is very clear indeed. If it isn't then we need to tweak it. I also point out that as this is reverting a recent undiscussed move, the
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I am going to go ahead and remove the whole lot. It seems like a slur against drug users, implying they are less bookish or educated.
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of articles which may be worth looking at when developing this article There is another collection which could also be of interest
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Notes that even for native speakers, not vocalising slows down the pace of reading - probably due to the absence of vowel letters.
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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.
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I have begun the merging process. I will favour material that is relevant, encyclopedic and having references. Comments welcome.
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is the most important of the terms needing disambiguation, but I don't think it rises to the level of being the primary topic. —
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to the article about the process. This is a great example of why I was against adding the historical significance criteria to
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The "Intelligence" section is in desperate need of some citations. I've tried looking but the closest I managed to find was:
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underrepresented. You are right in that this article holds the most natural name space, which is why it was decided to place
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is enough to put this at the base name, in addition to the page views (19,418 for the process and 18,458 for Berkshire in a
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I understand that point. What I don't understand is the relevance of that point to determining whether the process is the
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A topic like this would need its own page, there is a lot of work on the topic has been done and it deserves its own page.
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phenomenon in general, by a literature professor. Also don't throw around the word "advertising", it's uncalled for, see
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I have been collating a series of PubMed online Research paper collection, mainly about dyslexia, which can be found at
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It takes time, I have to let the bots fix the links to this article before changing the redirect. I'll do it on July 16.
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The section is too short and neglected. It also doesn't mention the crucial aspects. I reckon it needs to be reworked.
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instead? I think that would include all of the pertinent activities covered in the article, and I like it better than
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that are seriously significant, but which still do not come close to being the primary topic). The current article at
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I have a script reloading the article every two seconds, it will be teh primary topic soon enough </sarcasm: -->
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about how many people were searching for the city with just the single word "Reading". We have links, you know.
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is pretty pitiful but the topic therein is clearly more notable than all others, I think. But what do you thin-k?
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RMs only last a week (normally). If more discussion is wanted, an RfC would be the next step. They last 30 days.
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retains ambiguity and is, therefore, the wrong title for this article. In my opinion the page should be titled
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I can't figure out where to put information like the above in Knowledge (XXG). Perhaps it doesn't belong there.
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topics on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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Oh....thank you for linking that. I hadn't realized that this experiment was already run in 2015. Looks like
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Reader, among others. The latter two are good because they also support text to speech, but require Windows.
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surprising or weird that more readers are interested in the topics like the various cities with this name.
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That's an old and archived RfC. The point is still valid though, and his contribs need to be doublechecked.
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result that seems likely should be to move back to the original, which has been stable for some years now.
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You seem to be talking about the opposite of what I'm talking about, but it doesn't much matter now. The
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I welcome your suggestions. If there is an agreement to do the merger, I am happy to begin the process.
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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from peers, increased behavior issues, increased juvenile delinquency, juvenile incarceration, etc etc.
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Reading shows up commonly in disambiguation pages with links, generally meant for Reading, Berkshire
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Guided reading, reading workshop, shared reading, leveled reading, silent reading (and self-teaching)
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Here is a mock up of what the reading article might look like with this navigation template added:
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statements about having a high reading level making you less likely to take drugs or go to prison.
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A topic which gets only 50% of the page views, and which on some days is the less-read topic, can
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should become the disambiguating page, with links to Apple Inc, Apple (fruit), and Apple Corps. --
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I agree in principle. The existing "Cognitive benefits" section could be broadened and expanded.
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for fruit despite being overwhelmed by Apple company in terms of 'pageview' you're talking of. –
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The process of Reading has "substantially greater enduring notability and educational value" (
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familiarize yourself with WP's policies and guidelines before starting or commenting on RMs.
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Nowadays we could use Adobe Acrobat reader, which is a great tool for Screen Reader folks 😀
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experiment like I've seen on a couple other pages, where a new redirect is used in place of
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And again, adding in the Pennsylvania article, no article gets more than 40% of pageviews.
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is not appropriate here, since this word means causal relationships, not mere correlation.
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Also, think about people trying to internal link to this article. Unless they know that
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article does not realte to well to so many of the less well researched articles in the
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is there any good info about how to best read in a computer? font type, size, etc. ?
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I used ChatGPT to search for these. So there may be better and/or older studies.
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318,014 though but I still don't see how its even close to being as significant.
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help to support the determination of a primary topic in a discussion...include:
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presence of hyperlinks, for example, makes reading more difficult or easier.
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for these things; reading should be moved back to 'reading', and a hatnote to
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with respect to long-term significance. People have been reading long before
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to the well-meaning but ill-conceived "historical significance" criteria. --
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is not only clearly ambiguous but to some extent incorrect. This is because
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page, which shows all the different articles that could be titled "Reading."
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as many are looking for the one in Berkshire as are looking for the process
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Braille cannot read. This is a bias that I would like to see removed. --
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Whoever added the new graphic images, good choices! They look terrific.
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more than 20,000 more views than the process article over the past year.
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one potential criterion to commonly avoid is what "first comes to mind".
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I think a good parallel for this situation, but on a smaller scale, is
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You only think it's bogus because you don't like it. It's not bogus.
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article, not primacy (or lack thereof). So you're saying that because
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This article links to one or more target anchors that no longer exist.
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per AjaxSmack's well-reasoned rationale & previous RM's comments.
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A note that Born2cycle already made a bold strong oppose !vote above
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likelihood each page is the one being sought relative to the others.
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above. For all these reasons, this move would be a very bad idea. --
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Er, maybe, but when people hear rɛdɪŋ, they think something else. --
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would remove the lot. Other views, please, before implementing this
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Thank you. I will take a look at these concerns when time permits.
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specific, or visit this disambiguation link to find the city."
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would be a redirect, but that it would be a disambig page, like
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of ten seconds from now, I am removing the offending content.
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I would be willing to help if others agreed to the strategy.
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should be too? If that's the case, I don't understand why.
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Some articles that cover what you're talking about would be
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policy and has been debunked, see above. By your logic see
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The cognitive process is nowhere close to the primarytopic
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that cannot be meaningfully expanded beyond the definition
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woud be a more sensible way to approach consistency; like
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It's absolutely beyond doubt, that reading, yes literal
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Sources that may improve coverage of non-Latin scripts
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it would be obvious. The edit was made in good faith.
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types of reading (proofreading, close reading, etc)
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Further details are available 6702: 4357:) 21:46, 16 November 2015 (UTC) 3737:Right, I wasn't suggesting that 2893:Reading Makes You Less Likely... 1488:Sight vocabulary vs. sight words 1280:Teacher training and legislation 984:Optimum age for learning to read 808: 757: 680: 618:Template:WikiProject Linguistics 582: 572: 545: 499: 474: 396: 386: 365: 291: 281: 260: 227: 218: 45:Click here to start a new topic. 6996:WikiProject Psychology articles 6150:User:Flooded with them hundreds 5786:. And it's clearly not that. -- 4839:) 15:03, 17 October 2018 (UTC) 4255:Requested move 16 November 2015 1057:Novice reader: 6 to 7 years old 635:This article has been rated as 453:This article has been rated as 344:This article has been rated as 327:Template:WikiProject Psychology 7011:WikiProject Education articles 6971:C-Class level-4 vital articles 6941:19:43, 19 September 2024 (UTC) 6926:19:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC) 6391:Reading (city in Pennsylvania) 4672:Requested move 17 October 2018 4667:22:47, 25 September 2017 (UTC) 3425:thinking they'd get the city? 3058:15:41, 24 September 2010 (UTC) 3043:Printed vs. Electronic Reading 2916:00:28, 23 September 2009 (UTC) 2888:18:32, 17 September 2009 (UTC) 2712:22:10, 28 September 2008 (UTC) 2685:23:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC) 2636:21:52, 27 September 2008 (UTC) 2605:08:02, 27 September 2008 (UTC) 1533:Reading and spelling (writing) 1265:Reading from paper vs. screens 787:links to a specific web page: 660:Applied Linguistics Task Force 436:Template:WikiProject Education 1: 6789:12:37, 20 November 2022 (UTC) 6739:— Assignment last updated by 5884:16:07, 25 October 2018 (UTC) 4584:02:01, 28 November 2015 (UTC) 4563: 4550:22:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC) 4533:15:12, 24 November 2015 (UTC) 4516:07:12, 24 November 2015 (UTC) 4497:03:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC) 4430:20:17, 17 November 2015 (UTC) 4418:18:54, 17 November 2015 (UTC) 4401:07:38, 17 November 2015 (UTC) 4372:07:12, 24 November 2015 (UTC) 4135:Postmortem--no primary topic? 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Thanks. -- 2801:need a WIKI reading project 1884:History of learning to read 7052: 7001:C-Class education articles 6779:Benefits of reading books 6567:Is this article necessary? 6561:11:39, 26 March 2020 (UTC) 6200:The Berkshire article has 3767:is a disambiguation page, 3605:is the sensible solution. 3329:22:51, 30 April 2013 (UTC) 3002:198 in the number of edits 2761:21:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC) 2332:19:27, 5 August 2007 (UTC) 2286:17:29, 5 August 2007 (UTC) 2051:08:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC) 1145:Scarborough's reading rope 641:project's importance scale 459:project's importance scale 350:project's importance scale 6918: 6380:Reading (visual activity) 4793:could have been moved to 4245:15:28, 21 July 2013 (UTC) 4227:03:46, 21 July 2013 (UTC) 4212:17:32, 20 July 2013 (UTC) 4197:16:29, 20 July 2013 (UTC) 4164:00:36, 30 June 2015 (UTC) 4069:I would say that reading 3037:21:06, 10 June 2010 (UTC) 2858:15:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC) 2833:17:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC) 2818:13:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC) 2583:02:33, 16 July 2008 (UTC) 2564:16:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC) 2543:02:03, 30 June 2008 (UTC) 2246:18:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC) 2208:Correlation vs. causality 2194:02:04, 24 June 2007 (UTC) 2100:15:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC) 2076:05:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC) 1353:Effectiveness of programs 1323:Phonics and related areas 1028:Stages to skilled reading 716:, 16 November 2015, from 656: 634: 567: 494: 452: 381: 343: 276: 255: 80:Be welcoming to newcomers 6329:Please do not modify it. 6220:to the start of the year 5053:per nom, primary topic, 4753:Reading (disambiguation) 4686:Please do not modify it. 4634:Please do not modify it. 4322:Reading (disambiguation) 4269:Please do not modify it. 4121:Please do not modify it. 4099:15:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC) 4085:14:41, 12 May 2013 (UTC) 4061:13:03, 12 May 2013 (UTC) 4042:12:39, 12 May 2013 (UTC) 4014:10:33, 12 May 2013 (UTC) 3989:10:30, 12 May 2013 (UTC) 3968:09:43, 10 May 2013 (UTC) 3944:02:11, 11 May 2013 (UTC) 3708:10:36, 12 May 2013 (UTC) 3517:21:05, 17 May 2013 (UTC) 3502:20:31, 17 May 2013 (UTC) 3300:Reading (disambiguation) 3277:13:59, 21 May 2013 (UTC) 3241:Please do not modify it. 3022:17:19, 8 June 2010 (UTC) 2776:11:22, 9 June 2017 (UTC) 2692:Reading (disambiguation) 2661:reading (disambiguation) 2383:Thoughts? 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You have consensus. 2495:More links with Google 1130:Simple view of reading 698:, 30 April 2013, from 653: 307:WikiProject Psychology 75:avoid personal attacks 6775:Everyday conversation 6719:. Student editor(s): 6451:intended for a town. 6361:Reading, Pennsylvania 6359:, but I've also seen 5654:Meaning (existential) 5362:Reading, Pennsylvania 5332:Oh, look! a squirrel! 4901:Mmm, nope. There are 4471:Reading, Pennsylvania 3562:Reading, Pennsylvania 3373:. With page views as: 3255:no consensus for move 2066:comment was added by 2056:Reading in a computer 1769:Radio reading service 1754:Reading comprehension 1653:Logographic languages 1518:Reading comprehension 652: 412:WikiProject Education 241:on Knowledge (XXG)'s 234:level-4 vital article 100:Neutral point of view 6297:was a settlement. — 5425:the page view counts 5057:, common sense, and 4786:appeal to page views 3681:Apple (fruit), with 3160:Toxicmegacolonlaptop 2984:request for comments 2199:Subvocalized reading 1695:Reading difficulties 1308:Alphabetic languages 881:Reading vs. literacy 621:Linguistics articles 508:WikiProject Dyslexia 105:No original research 6852:Arabic and Hebrew: 6798:we have a red link 6727:). Peer reviewers: 6395:Lincoln (president) 5724:, are you invoking 5061:between the lines. 4025:Reading (cognition) 2786:reasons. 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