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hit it (center being the obvious exception), and you also have dampers. Now you can combine all these. Now you also have two ends of the stick (let's call them tip and butt) and there's the bead. Just do the combinatorics, and it's easy to name the sounds. THat's about how it's actually done, bar some ignorant composers that simply put an actual description of what to do.
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It is also impossible (or at least not recommended) with a Pipe Drum (side drum used in bagpipe bands), which has a snare underneath the batter head in addition to the bottom head. You can possibly get a pop with bongos, as with congos, but it has nothing to do with the rim, but with the heel of your
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Yes it is sad. And there are many more not mentioned here, but It's been a while for me, and I forget their proper names. Just listen to Buddy Rich, or other similar drummer to hear all the different tones you can get. There's also something in between a cross stick and rim shot, and then there's the
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You can essentially get three type of sounds on the snaredrum, a "chuck/kshing" (metal rim), a "thump" (skin), and "click" (stick on stick). You also have snares on/off, which make very tight, slightly inprecise, very brief metallic rattle. THe drum shell also produces a ring, depending on where you
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I'm not a professional percussionist, and it's been a long time since high school orchestra, but I've never performed a rimshot like the one described as an orchestral rimshot. We always placed the bead of one stick on the head and then struck the the shoulder with the other stick. Perhaps there's
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In orchestra - you can call anything anything else, because there's much more freedom in the choice of sounds. More often than not, professional percussionist are stunned by the part markings, and even just improvise. Music is a univeral language, but you will often find different english language
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The link to "sting" in the article 1) had the same text as the article name and 2) linked to an article with a title that did not conform to Knowledge (XXG) naming policy. Therefore, I renamed the previously named "sting(percussion)" page to "sting (percussion)", fixed the link to the article in
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In the article for General MIDI, under Percussion, it is stated that note 37 represents "Side Stick/Rimshot" which are two very different things, albeit complementary. A sidestick is basically a "reversed" rimshot, in that you keep the butt-end on the drumhead, and hit the rim with the bead.
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hand (or possibly using a stick to depress the head before striking with the other). It would be interesting to see who invented the rim shot. But then again, anyone who has sat alone tinkering with their drum has figured out how to do weirder things than a rim shot!
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I've found that many percussionists seem unaware of the differences in terminology between rimshots and cross sticks. I've added a short statement that makes note about this. Feel free to edit it at will Aaron (19:30, 2 December 2005)
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STINGS - A short sequence or "bumper" acting as visual or sound punctuation between two sections of a programme or introducing a regular feature or strand within a multi-item show. An example would be a short graphics clip with theme
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It says in the article, "The term is erroneously used to refer to the sting played by the drummer in cabaret shows to accentuate the punchline of a joke. As a result, a particularly obvious laugh line is sometimes called a rimshot.".
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Rimshot is definitely where you hit the rim and the head simultaneosly, that's why it usually is "less precise", since it's hard to control two hit points at the same time. How far in the stick is in, depends on the sound you after.
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Glossary of common media terms: Sting (Television and audio): A bit of music or sound (with pictures if on TV) used to punctuate the programme. Stings are often used at the beginning or the end of a report or to highlight the
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See, many composers are also not that acquaintaned with the different techniques, just like drummers have no idea about different violin markings, and most musicians confuse ritenuto, ritardando, spicatto and staccatto...
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except that the term is only incorrect if drummers get to decide what the public calls a comedic device. which they don't. it may not be the technical term drummers use, but it's still what this is called to most people.
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sting: A short piece of music (from 5 to 30 seconds) played in program breaks or to add drama. Stings are either dramatic music or based on station identification melodies. A musical form of a stab.
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It would be useful to add a list of text-based versions of the 'rimshot' to clarify how it should be used in email. For instance the person at the top of this talk article used "da boom CHING".
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On account of the membranophones which have the skin tightened over the rim itself, you can also do rimshots - you simply hit the rim. (It's all about getting a musially useful sound).
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I find this article excellent. I would like to list instruments to play with rim shots : bass drum, boobam, cuica, drum, paila (Cuban percussion), snare, surdo, timpani (see Carter :
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Currently, the article says that a rimshot is "the sound produced by hitting the rim of a snare drum." Actually, for a rimshot the drummer hits rim and drum head at the same time. --
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Seriously, wikipedia doesn't even have a paragraph on the rimshot as a comedic device? That's absurd and fails to meet the needs of the majority of people searching for a rimshot.
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Am I correct in thinking that not all rimshots (that is, that cheesy "da boom ching!" after a joke) actually involve a proper rimshot (that is, hitting the rim of the drum)? -
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They are not necessarily contadictory. The first paragraf talks about the erroneous use of the term, while the second paragrah may be using the term in its strict meaning.
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fun "pop" you can get from doing a cross stick and hitting your crossed stick upwards (often to spin in the air for you to catch - a showman's trick).
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The ones I've heard are actually tom-bassdrum-choked cymbal (ba-doom-tshh), and therefore don't involve the snare at all. -
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Then, two paragraphs later, "The rimshot is often used in American comedy to indicate the punchline of a bad joke."
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I know it as snare-snare-(bassdrum+cymbal). That's also what you hear when you follow the link in the article:
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It's also frequently used after a Stand-up_comedian|stand-up comedian's joke, augmenting the joke/pun itself.
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Continuum Encyclopedia of Popular Music of the World: VolumeII: Performance and Production, Volume 11
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Might be worthwhile to mention that, though I don't know how to do that in an non-offensive manner.
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I honestly just hate giw Furrykef spelled it out as "da boom ching" instead of "ba dum tss"
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Doing a Google books search "Rim shot" wins, doing a google search "rimshot" wins.
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The article notes that the term "rimshot" is often mistakenly used to refer to a
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Yes, we should have a separate article on the cross stick technique.
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by Darius Milhaud (1923). Michel Faligand, , 10.01.06, France.
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http://soundandthefoley.com/2013/04/10/of-stings-and-rimshots/
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Text-based representations of the cheesy "rimshot" punch-line.
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Brechtlein, Tom; Finkelstein, Mike; & Testa, Joe (1996).
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rimshot
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/school_report/7600511.stm
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