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That sounds good. Do you want to have a go at updating the article, or should I do it? I think having both versions right next to each other might look a bit redundant, since the detailed version has everything the other one does, and more. I would prefer to have just the detailed version, I guess it
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I'd like to lay out both of our arguments so we can get a third opinion. My position is that the detailed plot is both more informative, due to many more different phases and points of interest being shown, and also easier to read off due to the fine coordinate grid. Remsense's position is that these
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I certainly agree with the more detailed phase diagram because it provides more information. But for the thumbnail and easier to read argument is pretty practical. I don't see why we cannot include both - with the right captions. Some sections have multiple images. But if we have go with one, the
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The claim is properly sourced to a university website by an expert. "the Earth environment is close to the triple point and that water, steam and ice can all exist at the surface." and also "Near the surface of the Earth water can exist in three phases - ice (solid), water (liquid), and vapor
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It is not legible at its current display size. Another option would be to make it larger, but its current presentation is pretty obviously unacceptable, like I plainly said before. It's not reasonable to have thumbnail images only serve any utility once they are expanded.
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My dear friend, I feel a tone of aggression in your words, I understand your concern, but you don't need to be so aggressive with your words, be polite, as I'm being with you. (Note: I donāt wanna other discussion, so, get your mood on me, ok?)
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detailed one is best because you cannot read the simplified image well either and the specific heat capacity of water plot on the "on earth" section already looks very detailed that you have to click on it to see the detail.
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