3167:. As the article says, "The group p1 contains only translations; there are no rotations, reflections, or glide reflections." If you choose some feature of the wallpaper in the picture, say one of the largest flowers, and look for a rotated version of it (the same flower a different way up), you don't find one; so there are no rotations. And if you look for a mirror-image of it, you also don't find one; so there are no reflections (either straightforward or glide). p1 is the only wallpaper group with no rotations and no reflections.
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article. Removing a level of structure around the discussion of notation is also a step in the wrong direction. Then we come to the wording. I have high standards of writing, and most
Knowledge contributions fall short, including some parts of this article. However, we need to respect mathematics as well as rhetoric, and I was uncomfortable with what I saw happening. Lacking the time and lacking the inclination to nitpick every sentence change, I simply reverted all.
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little disk around it. It should be clear that all that's possible is to rotate the point, or reflect it, or have a whole bunch of reflections making a kaleidoscope there. For the rest of it, remember that we're recording the topology of the orbifold surface, and surfaces can be sorted out pretty straightforwardly by topology, into their constituent parts: cross-caps (x), handles (o) and boundaries (*). That's precisely what the notation is recording.
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vertical stripes horizontally by one stripe. The pattern is unchanged. Strictly speaking, a true symmetry only exists in patterns that repeat exactly and continue indefinitely. A set of only, say, five stripes does not have translational symmetry—when shifted, the stripe on one end "disappears" and a new stripe is "added" at the other end. In practice, however, classification is applied to finite patterns, and small imperfections may be ignored.
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2688:(a) If we stick with just rotations: these have cost 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 4/5, 5/6, 6/7 etc. (i) Can't have 6/7 or higher: Clearly can't have two such, since at least 12/7 and smallest cost available is 1/2. Can't have one such either, since remaining cost is greater than 1 but no more than 8/7; 1/2+1/2 is too small and 1/2+2/3 is too big. Similarly can't have 4/5. So we're left with 1/2, 2/3, 3/4 and 5/6.
1387:, it's confusing. I think the underlying cause of these difficulties is not our clumsy explanations, but the way the notation really works, which is a bit backwards. We know the groups and their symmetries, and use a notation that distinguishes the groups and that depends on a proper choice of axes. The axes in each case are chosen to make the notation work. Still, we're making progress.
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attempt left me scratching my head in puzzlement, and I'm someone helping edit the article, not someone who knows nothing about wallpaper groups trying to read it. Are you incredulous, or confused, or something else with regard to my comments? Because I feel like I'm just repeating myself, which probably isn't that helpful.
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is for! Don't worry if you get stuck with the wiki syntax, there are plenty of people hanging around here who will help you. You might consider creating an account, since it improves your anonymity slightly (i.e. we can't guess geographical location via your IP address :-)) And of course I'm looking forward to that book.
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for the number, as I think many readers will, and I tried to condense the essence of the simplest argument I could find. I'm especially surprised that you propose merging this with a discussion of notation, as both the topics and audiences are distinct. If we can make things clearer for lay readers, that would be great.
1495:, nevermind the download time for the pictures. Two images per group — one showing the cell structure, and one as an example — sounds fine, splitting the other images to a separate gallery page for each group. I'll give some thought to what might be done about the text. It could use a little reorganizing anyway.
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A symmetry of a pattern is, loosely speaking, a way of transforming the pattern so that it looks exactly the same after the transformation. For example, translational symmetry is present when the pattern can be translated (shifted) some finite distance and appear unchanged. Think of shifting a set of
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Examples A and B have the same wallpaper group; it is called p4m in the IUC notation and *442 in the orbifold notation. Example C has a different wallpaper group, called p4g or 4*2 . The fact that A and B have the same wallpaper group means that they have the same symmetries, regardless of details of
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Everything remaining must either start with a "*", or have just digits and no "*". Let's assume it starts "*6...". Then there can't be another "6" because that only leaves 1/6, which is less than 1/4 and nothing can be added to reach 2. Similarly there can't be a "4". But there can be a "3", in which
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Dear anon, that's an excellent point, there's something missing there. Here is my recollection of the situation (it's been a little while, and I don't have references handy). Your definition of "isomorphic" is the correct one, except that besides just rotations and rescalings, you need to include the
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Those participating in this discussion may be interested to know that Conway will be publishing a beautiful book on the subject early in 2007 (I am a co-author). Also, Conway has a nice way to understand all the 3D space groups, which will be discussed really for the first time in that book. Jan 25
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It would be nice to more systematically interleave the orbifold and international crystallographic notations. Also, the diagrams of the "cell structures" of the various groups seem a little misleading: (a) there is usually no canonical cell structure, but you are typically showing generators for the
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All this discussion really points to the inadequacy of the crystallographic notation. There is nothing canonical about it. Given a new group, you would not be able to guess accurately the name used for the last 100 years. The orbifold notation really does uniquely define a symmetry, in a way that can
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I have reverted your (Patrick's) edit back to my original clause, "they permit the same method of symmetry description in the other cases", to convey the correct meaning. Your edit did not make it clearer, it changed it to something completely different. My meaning, apparently misunderstood, was that
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Anyway, briefly, we typically use the minimal translation vectors of a primitive cell as oblique axes, giving a non-orthonormal basis in which every lattice point has integer coordinates. In crystallography, positions of atoms making up a crystal are given with respect to this coordinate system. Here
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I agree that the article is too long, and some of the images are poor. This is most true of the "computer-generated" images, which are sometimes hard to make out - I feel they should all be removed. Some of the other images are in my view too small-scale, with too many repeats - these could easily be
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explained how to decide which group to assign to a pattern, a list was used. The list was compact in the source, but seemed awkward on the page. To try to make the decision tree easier to read, I have created a version as a table with nested tables. In an abundance of caution, should others violently
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When you add an image, please try to identify which of the 17 patterns it corresponds to (see article), and include it in the filename. Please try to match the filename conventions I have used above. Also, give some indication in the comment field of the source of the image (e.g. "pattern on the oval
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However, I note that each pair of red and blue tiles can be considered a single tile, in which case there is no rotation or reflection at all, which would make this group p1 (o) using an oblique cell structure. In fact, that is how I created the image, first by creating a pair or red and blue tiles,
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I appreciate that you would like to improve the article; thanks for that. Unfortunately, you made a number of edits recently with mixed results. Use of a gallery in the intro was a good idea; I have retained that. Removing images is not such a good idea; the assortment is one of the strengths of the
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an inconvenient bug. I'll follow your suggestion and change all the section headers to normal, as the context there sets off the group names anyway. (If
Dmharvey doesn't object.) I'd still like to see consistent bold group names in the text. Do you disagree with that convention or just don't want to
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cell, then trying to notate the other symmetries; the whole 2-axis notation system falls apart. The central idea is not that the primitive cell has equal sides (a rhombus), but that the symmetries don't align with the cell sides. We'd have a problem empirically confirming a rhombus (from measurement
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However, this topological approach offers no geometric insight. Most of the pleasure of wallpaper groups is in the geometry, and we often use them as a stepping stone to the full 3D crystallographic space groups. Sadly, I haven't found a way to condense a geometric approach to any acceptable length.
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Done! I'm not thrilled with my effort, but I sketched the pretty orbifold approach to enumerating the groups. My hunch is that a really satisfying, accessible, and complete proof through any route would be too long. Instead, I have inserted a provocative handwave. Is it ideal? Doubtful. Is it better
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If we shift example B one unit to the right, so that each square covers the square that was originally adjacent to it, then the resulting pattern is exactly the same as the pattern we started with. This type of symmetry is called a translation. Examples A and C are similar, except that the smallest
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I must say I found this article deeply confusing and unhelpful. That may be because I am interested in wallpaper and not in mathmatics. None of the huge number of illustrations are much use to describe the actual issues in large pattern wallpaper design at all. What group is the picture illustrated
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The "F" shape on a tile is there to destroy any internal symmetry of that tile, and to show how the symmetries of the group relate that tile to the other tiles. So the orientation of the first "F" in a diagram is arbitrary, what matters is how it relates to the orientation of the other "F"s. I have
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OK, but let's not assert that the only mathematical content here involves the abstract groups. The subject of wallpaper groups is a mathematical subject, namely: realizing abstract groups as certain groups of motions in the plane. The images are essential to understanding this subject, and it would
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That exhausts the groups with a "*" and all the rest have only digits. If there is a "6", there can't be another "6" because that only leaves 1/3, which is too big for any feature as long as there's no "*" in sight. Similarly there can't be a "4". However, there can be a "6" and a "3" in which case
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Dear madam/sir, I'm glad you like the page. Most of the "cultural examples" you speak of are my fault. (Well I didn't draw them obviously, but I collected and organised them). If you have any ideas for the page, you are of course quite welcome to make changes yourself! That's what the "edit" button
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We don't cover nonperiodic tiling under wallpaper groups because wallpaper groups only describe periodic tilings. An article on tilings or tesselations could raise the issue, as could an article on projections of higher-dimensional periodicity. In fact, my recollection is that such mention is made.
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has a horizontal mirror line, and the discussion of axes says we should have a mirror perpendicular to the main axis. The right-hand illustration has neither a horizontal nor a vertical edge as mirror, though there is an internal vertical mirror. I can't swear to it, but I believe the vertical axis
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Thank's for the praise. I will gladly exchange the existing images for my own, but as wikimedia servers are somewhat instable at the moment, I will do so probably next week. I was thinking about an extra examples page as well. As examples would need very little language specific text and would thus
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When we do, I would love to hear your views on the notation subsections, and on the "why 17" explanation. Those are appealing for me to discuss because it's mostly my writing. "Obfuscated" surprises me; my sources were scarce and rather more difficult. I had always wanted an accessible explanation
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On the subject of the structure of the notation, I strongly feel for technical reasons that the discussion is incorrectly structured and overstructured. My thinking on this point is not fully fleshed out, because I did not yet revise the obfuscated section on "why there are 17 wallpaper groups".
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Thanks; good catch. Crystallography has conventions for choosing these axes, and choices for the cell origin as well. Axis, not vector, is the correct term in this context, so I suppose more explanation is required. It's a little frustrating, because we encounter the notation section at a point in
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cells. Sadly, after reading it several times in context I still found it more confusing than helpful. The phrase you replaced does trouble me as well, being little more than a handwave. Honestly, we may never be able to say enough in a single short sentence. For now, your new material is commented
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with the correct name, and use of the alternate template removed. Otherwise consistency of the page becomes hard to maintain. I found this a problem when I tried to give all the images a descriptive tag, as web standards require. For the heck of it, I used the Conway notation, and found some minor
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page, for a few reasons.) The idea was to have a visible mnemonic; I cannot look at either
Hermann-Mauguin or Conway notation and immediately picture the symmetry, and I'm sure many readers will have the same problem and thus appreciate a visual hint now and then. Especially, I thought it would be
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Using the idea of a fractional Euler characteristic we can count the contribution of each notated feature. The first "2" counts as 1/2; the "*" counts as 1; and each following "2" counts as 1/4. The sum is exactly 2, as is required for a wallpaper orbifold. In fact, I've been contemplating filling
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The most uncomfortable terminology is "rotocenter"; but alternatives sprawled out of control, so I stuck with it. Substitute "center of rotation" and you'll see what I mean. Incidentally, I found it much harder to format a table like this in
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However, example C is different. It only has reflections in horizontal and vertical directions, not across diagonal axes. If we flip across a diagonal line, we do not get the same pattern back; what we do get is the original pattern shifted across by a certain distance. This is part of the reason
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Ishboyfay. It would be very good to add the isomorphic groups, but please do not hide the figures. The real world connection for this topic is important and having several examples is very helpful for visualizing the transformations. Remember too that your audience includes more than
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I understand the general point that it's nice to have a lot of illustrations, moreover that this article in particular merits a catalogue of examples. In my opinion, the article goes overboard. You would surely agree that there is such a thing as too many examples; the question then is where to
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The images for cm and cmm are now rhombuses. With regard to the orientation of the images: it is consistent with the other images in having one translation vector horizontal. However, I wonder if it is not easier to have the diagonals horizontal and vertical (e.g., all example images have such an
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this discussion really points to the inadequacy of the crystallographic notation. There is nothing canonical about it. Given a new group, you would not be able to guess accurately the name used for the last 100 years. The orbifold notation really does uniquely define a symmetry, in a way that can
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The main page still needs a concise, coherent survey of all the groups. Visiting separate pages for image galleries is one thing; doing so when trying to compare groups or understand all 17 as a whole is not so appealing. Of course, the current long scroll makes that awkward as well, which is one
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Something that isn't clear to me is why are 2,3,4,6,*,x,o the only "features" allowed? I can buy that once you restrict yourself to these, there are only 17 combinations that add up to 2 with that formula... but I'm left scratching my head as to whether we've missed possible wallpapers because of
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I often use a smaller cell, which might not be rectangular in some cases, and which might also cut elemental cells in half. I do this because I think smaller cells are more intuitive, but if there is a reason why the diagrams as currently listed are better, I'd perhaps change my diagrams as well.
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Convention would be, for such a diagram, to consider it p1 - but it is one of the things often left unsaid when discussing symmetry groups that makes the subject confusing (for me, at least - and I may have gotten it wrong!) Another confusing thig is that it is p1 whether the unit cell is square
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Sometimes two categorizations are meaningful, one based on shapes alone and one also including colors. When colors are ignored there may be more symmetry. In black and white there are also 17 wallpaper groups; e.g., a colored tiling is equivalent with one in black and white with the colors coded
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1) Why are the only features o,x,*, numbers. (Note, don't rule out 5, etc, a priori. This comes for free a little later) There are two kinds of feature, those that fix a point and those that don't. If a point is fixed, we can understand the feature that fixes it by looking at what happens to a
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The first three numbers give the lengths of the axes; the next three, the angles; then comes the space group, which in this case is based on a rhombohedral cell. (Of course, the rhombohedral symmetry partially constrains the axis lengths and completely constrains the angles.) The calcium atom is
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I think it should be better explained. I have a maths background (but not in group theory) and it has taken me awhile to understand the diagrams. They also say "on the right" for the diagrams when I think they mean "on the left." Overall the intro to the group diagrams is confusing and not well
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which lists all the possible (non-hyperbolic) 2 dimensional orbifolds. You can enumerate all the possible orbifolds, and calculate their Euler characteristics, most will turn out to be hyperbolic, some are spherical and some, the one we are interested in, are parabolic. For example those with a
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Yes, the new caption helps. And, yes, I do mean the text should not refer to an invisible feature. If you feel that the information is important, and are not swayed by the reservations I expressed, then I expect you will want to amend the image and then augment the text. Remember, the previous
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An idea that just occurs to me is to trim my hints to the fundamental regions. That works nicely with Conway notation, keeps them small, and perhaps avoids duplication. I'm not sure the new pictures will work at the tiny size (inline?!) I'm contemplating. It might be nice to depict an orbifold
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Everything is explained, except for the "type of". What does it mean for two groups of isometries of the plane to have the same type? Does it mean they are abstractly isomorphic as groups? Or is there something more subtle going on (like that they become the same group of isometries after
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Can someone please give an explanation of the "F" shape in the tiles. It is used in a lot of illustrations, it tantalizingly seems to contain some information, but it is never explained anywhere what that information is. It is especially frustrating because it isn't the sort of thing one can
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Then we come to the wording. I have high standards of writing, and most
Knowledge contributions fall short, including some parts of this article. However, we need to respect mathematics as well as rhetoric, and I was uncomfortable with what I saw happening. Lacking the time and lacking the
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or something similar, with most of the example images. The main article will have, for each group, the cell diagram, perhaps one pretty example image (perhaps more if some aspect of the theory is best explained by example), and a link to the "examples page" saying "See more examples of this
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I think this mathematical information would be more useful and relevant than the multiple images to illustrate every wallpaper group. Ok, the images are very pretty, and it would be nice to keep them; maybe they could live inside "hide" boxes, so that readers who are more interested in the
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of the plane". The reason you need to include arbitrary linear transformations is that otherwise there will be infinitely many different versions of say p1, all with slightly different angles between the two independent translations. For similar reasons your definition needs to include the
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When I filled in the section on orbifold notation, I used the spelling "center". The rest of the article uses "centre", so I changed to that everywhere. Also, the word "rotocenter" was used in several places, and I changed that to "rotation centre", for both clarity and consistency. In the
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improvement. I would definitely like them included in the english version, in fact to replace the current diagrams. Actually, I have a bigger job in mind: I think the "illustrations from architecture and art" need a separate page, with plenty of cross linking back and forth. Something like
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This is a nice article, but in my view it belabors its subject. I think that it would teach people more if we simplified the wording, and removed remarks which are redundant or nearly trivial. I spent some time this morning simplifying the article, but I think that more could be done.
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is handy for this.) On its border we see three rotation centers, none of which is a symmetry image of the others. (I've modified the text a little to clarify.) One of them lies on a glide reflection axis intersection but not any mirror axis. The other two lie on intersecting 45° mirror
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I agree that the example images should be on
Commons. (I apologise for not uploading them there myself to begin with. I will do so from now on.) However, I think there should be a separate example pages on each wikipedia. The article should be part of the encyclopaedia(s) after all.
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need an informal discussion of when two groups are considered isomorphic. After all it may be difficult for someone without group theory background to recognise why two completely different looking patterns are actually "the same", or why two similar looking patterns are actually
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If we turn example B clockwise by 90°, around the centre of one of the squares, again we obtain exactly the same pattern. This is called a rotation. Examples A and C also have 90° rotations, although it requires a little more ingenuity to find the correct centre of rotation for
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Or there could be an "x" and multiple features that sum to 1. We can't have both "x" and "6" because that's already 1 + 5/6, and there's no feature whose value is as small as 1/6. Similarly, we can't have both "x" and "4" or "x" and "3", so the only group we can get this way is
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Hi KSmrq, are you sure the "cmm" example for the orbifold notation is correct? I find that after following your instructions for the first three symbols 2*2, I am already forced to have the entire cmm group, so it is not true that the last 2 represents an independent rotation.
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For any given wallpaper image, you can select an infinite number of differently-shaped "unit cells", with a various amounts of symmetry in their shape, and all of them will share the property of being able to re-build the original pattern by repeating the cell. Image 2 in the
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need to be fixed. Otherwise, the proportions of the images are incorrect and the lines of glide reflection not dashed. I also fixed an error in the cm image pointed out by
Patrick. If things turn out well, I might even get around to do SVG versions of the legend images. --
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in that subsection! In a general encyclopedia, you really do need to show a little more working and not assume quite so much mathematical knowledge. Somewhere there needs to be something that shows explicitly where the 17 comes from, not leaving it to readers to infer.
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Here, on the other hand, I think that you are being unfair. I am a professional mathematician and I certainly do have complete respect for the mathematics as well as the rhetoric. I made changes that I thought improved the explanations simultaneously at the lay level
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Make sure your photo includes a few "cells", so that the repetitive nature of the pattern can be easily seen. If possible, try to rotate the image into a sensible orientation, and make sure the brightness/saturation etc is reasonable. (I can do this myself if need be.)
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at the technical level. I don't think that it's reasonable for you to revert these changes just because you lack the time and inclination to nitpick, because that is exactly what I did find time for. To be fair, you may not have realized how I thought about these
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The section on crystallographic notation describes how the letter c denotes a face-centred cell. However the cm cell picture shows only the primitive cell. Would it be useful to have a picture that showed clearly the face-centred cell from which the name is taken?
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Another thing: "translation vector" seems clearer and more common than "translation axis" ("axis" is used for reflection and for 3D rotation, and for a line in the center). Also, there are two, but without explanation one is referred to as the "main". That seems
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so that the article in effect had a new long introduction followed by the old short introduction, including repeated material. I have reverted to the old short introduction, but it may be a good idea to integrate parts of the following text in a proper fashion.
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section is supposed to help you with this assignment. This image either has no rotational symmetry (if you take colours into account) or has 180° rotational symmetry (if you would remove them), and that property alone determines whether it may belong to p1 or
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in this article. Penrose put forth many mathematical examples of filling a 2 dimentional plane in a non-repeating (aperiodic) way. I think at least a mention of his contemporary work would be appropriate here as this was the mathematical evelution (AFAIK).
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Nø's explanation basically said the same thing I did in my initial comment, that depending on how you look at it, the group is p1 or p2. My question remains unanswered. Suppose this image was to be included in the article. Where would it fit? In p1 or p2?
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Based on that definition, a notation of "x*" is not legitimate, and "326" is essentially the same as "632". This seems to answer the question asked. I'm not an expert here, but if others agree with my definition, I think it should be added somewhere.
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cells. I'm all for visual references, so long as the language is clear and helpful. Unfortunately, the clause you introduced seemed (to me) to be confusing for discrimination and silent for explanation. For all I know, mine may seem the same for you!
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I think there is some kind of concept of geometric isomorphism which is a priori different from isomorphism as abstract groups; although if I recall correctly it turns out that they are the same concept; i.e. all the 17 groups are non-isomorphic even
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We could try putting in both a "4" and a "3" but that just doesn't work out (try it). Similarly we can't have a "4" and a "2" without there being a second "4". So the rest of the groups don't have "4"s. If there's a "3" then the only possibility is
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I went ahead and replaced the old "cell structure" images with the newer SVG versions. I also think you're right about the "computer-generated" images. They don't add much to the article beyond what the "cell structure" images already illustrate.
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This still leaves a lot of questions for the layperson (such as myself). Why isn't, for example "x*" an 18th wallpaper group? (you only have "*x" listed above)? Also, this pretty much just transfer the question to, why are there only 7 features?
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Thanks for changing the headers. I do not find bolding very important because fortunately the codes are not normal words, except cm, but even that is not used once in the meaning of centimetre in the article. However, for uniformity I'll try to
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b) Now here's a great trick! Kaleidoscopic numbers, red in the book, those after *, cost half as much as rotation ones. Since * costs $ 1, and since half of $ 2 is $ 1, we can take any of the above symbols and get one with all numbers after *:
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Thank you for preserving this alternate text. I've just rearranged and reworked the lede to clarify it for a lay audience, and tried to incorporate some of these themes. I referred to p1 in it, and think that adding the more familiar p1 image
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and I were collaborating to design for the article. Unfortunately, real life intruded (he's a doctoral student in mathematics at
Harvard) before we settled on a final version. In other words, I have a long-term involvement in improving the
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group, so that's no big deal, but (b) there is no difference between, say the symmetry denoted o (in the orbifold notation) and p1 (in the intl cr. notation) and it seems like they should have the same diagram. Same point for the other 16.
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uncomfortable that I (reluctantly) decided it was better to revert. I really would like to follow the one step back with two steps forward. In the real world, I've got some distractions just now, and in
Knowledge I'm trying to finish up a
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section gives an example of two different "unit cells" with an area "a" on a Pythagorean tiling, one with symmetry, the other without. The shape of a "unit cell" has absolutely no bearing on what group the particular pattern belongs to.
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Calcite Graf D L American Mineralogist 46 (1961) 1283-1316 Crystallographic tables for the rhombohedral carbonates 4.9900 4.9900 17.0615 90 90 120 R-3c atom x y z Ca 0 0 0 C 0 0 .25 O .2578 0 .25
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In short, I propose to describe at the beginning of article what is a repetitive pattern for the article, and insert the present image. To have a minimal area, a parallelogram‑shaped pattern shall be contructed from two translations
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My understanding is that a given wallpaper cannot be classified in two different ways. That this classification scheme creates a partition of all wallpapers, is this correct. If so, then there is an issue with the images on the page.
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I noticed that when italics are used in a section header, after section editing one ends up at the beginning of the page instead of at the section. I find this very inconvenient. Therefore I suggest that we use normal text in section
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We can also flip example B across a horizontal axis that runs across the middle of the image. This is called a reflection. Example B also has reflections across a vertical axis, and across two diagonal axes. The same can be said for
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At least for me, the biggest difficulty is recognizing which part of the pattern is the tile. After that, finding out the group is much easier. So maybe we should add a paragraph on how to identify the tile, ideally with example(s).
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is a convention (outside Knowledge). That's what Tess uses, though a sample of one is hardly conclusive evidence. Believe me, I understand tinkering with figures can be a pain; so I can sympathize if you don't want to change it.
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taken as the cell origin, the carbon is at a special fraction (1/4) of the z axis, and the oxygen is at a less special position with respect to the symmetry. Thus the action of the symmetry group yields the chemical formula CaCO
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I would greatly appreciate another set of eyes on the description I've written of crystallographic (Hermann-Mauguin) notation. Have I told any lies? Is there a better way to explain it? What pictures, if any, should be added?
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It looks like this discussion ended somewhere in early 2006, but the article has been left in a state where every group has two different "cell diagram" images. Using one or the other would clean up and shorten the article.
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Wallpaper groups categorize patterns by their symmetries. Subtle differences may place similar patterns in different groups, while patterns that are very different in style, color, scale or orientation may belong to the same
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It's impossible to have "*6..." and then no "3", because there's no way to make that add to 2, so let's now assume it starts "*4...". There is 5/8 left over, and the only way to make that is another "4" and a "2", yielding
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Thanks KSmrq, I think your table is a vast improvement in legibility. I might come back soon and change some of the labels/terminology in the table, to more closely match that used in the discussion earlier in the article.
3568:, two occurrences before its first images. And never we do know really which repetitive patterns they are. To begin it should be written that any repetitive pattern of the article will have a minimum area, and that
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One of the examples needs to be fixed. Someone has added an "Errata". First of all, it should be "Erratum". Secondly, there shouldn't be any errata at all. If the example is misclassified, please move it to the correct
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apply to all languages, perhaps such an example page would best be located on Commons as well. The images should be moved there in any case, I believe. I think I can do this as soon as I get access to the Commons bulk
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representation. For example, in the p4g photo shown here, some of the tiles are slightly orange-coloured, in a manner not strictly matching the p4g description. But it's pretty close, and gets the general idea across.
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to the same without the "Here". But obviously, a wallpaper is a finte roll of paper with a printed pattern to be glued to a wall. I don't find the "Here" a good solution, but I don't think we can simply do without.
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Now let's do the ones that have one "*". "6" can't be to the left of "*" because that's already 1 + 5/6, but "4" can be to the left of "*". In that case the remaining feature must be a "2" on the right, so we have
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That section, if revised, could be merged with the section on orbifold notation. But it will be difficult for me to edit this article if people undo changes just because they don't have time to think about them.
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The computer generated images are pretty much the only things left from the previous incarnation of this page. I don't mind if they disappear, especially if they get replaced by something matching the diagrams.
3753:(i.e., highly symmetric in shape) or a parallellogram (minimal symmetry) - unless the content of the unit cell is symmetrical, the symmetry of the cell's shape is considered irrelevant for this classification.
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And why would I want this? Well, if this mathematical topic is applied to actual wallpapers (you known, things made of paper, glued on the reverse and all that), I find it a bit odd, and hence noteworthy, that
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Also, in the next month or so, I intend to edit this article so it becomes more accessible to the non-mathematically inclined. It is an excellent example of a mathematical article that could have wide appeal.
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The caption provisionally compensates for what is missing in the diagram. I have clarified it further. Surely you don't mean that important info missing from an image should also be missing from the text?--
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they are isomorphic as abstract groups! Obviously you need to do a little bit of work to prove this. I believe there is a discussion of how this all works in the Grunbaum reference, but I'm not 100% sure.
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and I were working on are long overdue, and this would be a stimulus for me to finish them off and put them in place. (The best ones do not appear on my talk page.) So, meet you back here on February 25?
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Yes I think your right. The key difference is that one has a three fold rotation without a reflection through the point. I've now delinked the images. Well done for spotting it, only 4 year in error! --
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I vaguely remember that years back I sorted out something plausible and coherent for 3D, but I've not taken the time to try to resurrect it. One way to look at it is to imagine taking that rhombus as a
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Thanks. I had copied the table from another site, not realizing it was incomplete. (Tess uses these pairs.) I have already fixed that problem, but it raised a question perhaps you understand. The group
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need a page on the crystallographic restriction theorem, i.e. why is it that the only allowable rotations are of order 2, 3, 4, or 6. Also cover higher dimensional cases involving totient function.
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My favorite symmetry. Again reversible, so again, that's it. Since * and x are too expensive to have two of with numbers in the same symbol, and o can't be combined at all, that's it for numbers.
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if I understand it correctly, the bold and blue (with links) symbols are the short and the bold and black symbols in brackets are the full/long symbols? If that is true, then the two entries
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The "Why there are exactly 17 groups" subsection is not great for the layperson, as nowhere in its explanation does it actually say "There are 17 because". Indeed, the number 17 isn't even
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that one is indicated by a darker shade of gray interspersed with the dots of the glide axes and hidden behind the cell boundaries, but that's rather close to a "polar bear in a snowstorm".
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As for including it as an example, I think a photo of the actual flagstone tiling would be more fittng for an encyclopedia. We already have two artificially-generated exampes under p1. --
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draw the line. I recommend removing some of the uglier or more indistinct examples. But I concede room for reasonable disagreement on this point and I do not mind this reversion so much.
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Hmm; Conway notation is looking more and more appealing! I have attempted to clarify centred cells again, along with the axes. Still left wanting an explanation is "primary" axis. Sigh.
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1695:"A wallpaper group or plane crystallographic group is a type of topologically discrete group of isometries of the Euclidean plane which contains two linearly independent translations."
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would be good, but I'm not quite sure how to do that. I think the lede could still use more work, e.g. to clarify what it means to be talking about groups here, not just symmetries.
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Thanks for your thoughts. Perhaps we're not too far apart on what we're looking for. I did see some things I liked in your rewordings, so I don't mean to suggest it was all negative.
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I think it is convenient to have the translation cell drawn the same for p3, p31m, and p3m1, as we have now. Anyway, the person to ask first would be the maker, Martin von Gagern.--
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Texas tile is a better approximation of the state's shape than that Texas tile), but I have no idea of Reddit's licensing terms and it's unlikely we could use that photograph.
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Hello KSmrq and Patrick, you've both been doing a lot of great stuff to this page. I wish I had time to edit now but I don't. I have been keeping an eye on progress though.
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I don't know what you are trying to say: either that the groups have little to do with a rhombus, or that you agree that the figures should (more clearly) show a rhombus.--
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seems to be a neologism coined by the article's creator and the resulting article is a content fork of this article, though written at a slightly more elementary level.--
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never be mistaken and can be calculated; it generalizes to all two-dimensional symmetries, of the plane, sphere, and hyperbolic plane, and the frieze groups. Jan 25 2006.
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Some symmetry combinations imply translational symmetry in two dimensions, so there is some overlap. However, treatment of individual wallpaper groups is not repeated.--
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Please don't take the reversion as a slight; under other circumstances I would try to work with you paragraph by paragraph. Maybe we can come back to this in the future.
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It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to move ALL the example images into 17 separate articles, one for each group. I'd do it someday, but a bit overwhelmed at the moment!
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should be rotated clockwise 30° so that the long diagonal becomes horizontal. The convention elsewhere is a vertical main axis, with perpendicular (horizontal) mirror.
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We can have a "2" to the left of the "*", and in this case there is more than one possibility. There is 1/4 left over, so there can be either another "2" to the left:
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Patrick, the description of primary axis choice is a definite improvement over nothing (which is what I had said); thanks. A problem or two remains. Your phrasing is
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That isn't very helpful, actually. It doesn't specify what is allowed for orbifold notation. From what I can tell, a proper orbifold notation is made of 4 parts:
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This has nothing to do with conventions. The assignment to a wallpaper group is directly and only based on the image's rotational and mirror symmetries, and the
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This exhausts the possible Conway orbifolds of genus 2 and therefore the planar symmetry groups. These seventeen are all there are and all there shall ever be. —
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Something I would like to see here is a listing of what groups these actually are, abstractly. What groups they are isomorphic to, if you like. For example, I
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Um, I can show where the number 17 comes from, but I don't think it will help much, because that's not the difficult part of the derivation. Anyway, here goes:
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notation. (In 3D we have more cell types and the idea of closest-packing structures.) Part of the problem is that no rhombus is visible in the diagram(s) for
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never be mistaken and can be calculated; it generalizes to all two-dimensional symmetries, of the plane, sphere, and hyperbolic plane, and the frieze groups.
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c) An even cooler trick: Can swap any pair of identical numbers after the * for a single one in front of the star, costing twice as much. Thus *3 33 yields
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That's all the groups that contain either "o" or "x", so all the others must have only digits and "*". If there are two "*"s, then that's it for the group:
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and used your naming scheme for this. So once the images can be migrated to use SVG, names would match notation. But before this can happen, MediaWiki bugs
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instead of a fundamental region, but that's a graphics challenge. Meanwhile, using different colors for non-isomorphic features (centers, axes) may suffice.
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saying that a wallpaper group is the symmetry group of a wallpaper, but rather that it is the symmetry group af a "repetitive plane pattern", or the like.
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I agree. It's been two years. Can somebody editing this page please put it in plain English, or if it just isn't that easy, change the section heading?
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classification table, I changed my original "rotocenter" to "rot. centre"; it's not quite so pretty, but may be easier to understand — and it still fits.
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The legend images are old, I think they have been removed some day, but for now, I think they are better than having just text describing the symbols.--
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disagree with the wisdom of this, I have left the previous list version in the source, commented out. Admittedly, just shuffling the deck chairs. :-)
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The constant use of quotation marks around group names like "p3m1" seemed distracting in an article that uses them so often, so I switched to either
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I think it is sometimes helpful to have both versions, showing sometimes a different orientation, a different choice of fundamental domain, etc.--
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the colours, focusing on the outline of the Texases only, the figure has an 180° symmetry that takes a red Texas into a blue Texas, and it is p2.
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These patterns are used in all kinds of artistic situations, especially in architecture (bricks, tilings, pavings, etc) and in decorative art.
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icons, maybe not) and think about reorganization. Another thing I'd like is more group-theoretic discussion, such as the subgroup relations.
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Clearly, as conventions are, it would be p1 only. It is, I believe, not a figure that would add anything valuable to the article, though.
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If you think you can improve on one of the images already present, please go ahead! Call it for example "Wallpaper_group-cmm-2.jpg", etc.
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I have completely redone the wallpaper group page. I borrowed some pics and links but most of the text is new. Also there is LOTS of art.
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On the present image, various patterns are parallelograms constructed each from two translations under which the wallpaper is invariant.
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Please deposit links to the images on this discussion page. When there are sufficiently many, I will put them in the article proper.
3692:, I encountered a small plaza paved with Texas-shaped flagstones. I just spent some time figuring this out, and created this image.
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The "computer generated" examples for p31m and p3m1 seem to be switched, according to the definitions. Can someone verify this? --
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If we have a page for each group we can also have all text about that group there, partly copied, partly moved from the main page.--
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This will become even more imperative when I add more of the photos that are sitting on my hard drive crying out for inclusion....
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One subtlety is that some of the groups allow axes of different lengths, and possibly at arbitrary angles; I'd like that depicted.
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a wallpaper group? No, the sum is 3/4+3/4+3/4, which is too large. I know of no easy sanity check on crystallographic notation.
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It is a little confusing that the orientation of the diagram is sometimes different from that of the computer-generated image.--
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the same picture. Especially if the colors are removed. I did this from memory, it was many years ago. Looking around, I found
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is equally overwhelming and not clear at all. I'll do this myself when I collect some pictures of the fundamental domains....
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text, whether caption or otherwise, is to refer to the rhombus, it should be visible. I believe a diamond shape will work for
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I believe I read my notation with the additional m in some book as well, but I would not bet on this. I uploaded the files as
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Now the challenge is, how to say just enough to explain wallpaper group notation without dragging in all of crystallography!
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This is a very nice article and I have been enjoying the cultural examples of wall paper groups. I do have a few comments:
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Having had the pleasure of being a coauthor of the "Symmetries of Things" can address a couple of issues raised here.
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Thus, in this context, a wallpaper is a pattern that covers a whole Euclidean plane by repeating a motif indefinitely.
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Look at the closeup images - the Egyptian mats differ in details, that's why each one belongs to a different group.--
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One benefit is that anyone can enumerate the groups, and can do a sanity check on orbifold notation. For example, is
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Sorry, I didn't notice your questions until now. I have added links for dihedral and cyclic, which may help a little.
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Also could you please fix up the text to clarify exactly how the terms dihedral and cyclic are used in this context.
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I hereby initiate a project to collect photographs illustrating the 17 wallpaper groups. (See examples to the side).
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the colours, it only has a parallellogram (oblique) unit cell (possibly square), and no further symmetry; thus p1.
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Perhaps we should rewrite? Maybe we should start by saying what a "Wallpaper group" is, not what a wallpaper is -
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Grid lines show up for me. Could be your browser or the new WikiMedia software. The lines do assist readability.
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If we now restrict ourselves to 1/3 and 1/2, clearly can't mix them, and we get 1/2+1/2+1/2+1/2 and 1/3+1/3+1/3
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We can have a "3" to the left of the "*", in which case the remaining feature must be a "3" on the right, so
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No further explanation is given. I don't understand what is meant. Please expand or I will remove it. Thanks
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rewrite of one particular article. My head is full. Could we possibly come back to this in, say, a week?
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Here a wallpaper is a drawing that covers a whole Euclidean plane by repeating a motif indefinitely ...
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The types of transformations that are relevant here are called Euclidean plane isometries. For example:
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I've introduced an extended description of the cell distinction, split out as a separate paragraph.
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I have made a small beginning with some of the easy ones, from my bathroom and garage (see thumbs).
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