Talk:Windscreen wiper - Knowledge (XXG)

1456:. Pure ENGVAR issue. Outside North America, "windscreen" appears to be the common term, in far more countries than those that use "windshield". If we used Google searches to determine all our article titles then they would invariably be American, as far more webpages seem to come out of America than anywhere else. Thankfully, this is English Knowledge (XXG) not American Knowledge (XXG) and we don't. Of course, if we just used numbers of people who used one term or another then all our articles would probably be titled in Indian English, which is closer to British English than American English! It is unfortunate that it doesn't match the 1485:

America, at least webpages in the English language. If British English conventions be preferred on the basis that they're surely adopted in more countries over any other English convention, then every general article (with a subject matter not pertaining to national ties) should only be using British spelling conventions under this logic. I would think that this type of logic goes against the very spirit of ENGVAR or similar Knowledge (XXG) policies or guidelines.

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about equal complexity). The two arms of the pantograph were of different length, with the outside arm being longer, allowing the blade to change position slightly during each wipe, presumably to provide better coverage of the lower and upper corners on the driver's side without the other end of the blade having to leave the windshield. Usually these were in a

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I did not know about "&pws=0", but adding it to the end of my Google search still gives me the same results as before. I get the same amount of results per the tested searches, only thing that changes is the amount of seconds. I don't think I ever had "personal search" turned on to begin with, so

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Some larger cars in the late '70s, early '80s, and perhaps beyond, had a pantograph wiper on the driver's side, with a conventional pivot on the passenger side. I've seen these only on LH driver American cars; I don't know if they ever appeared on RH drive cars (mechanically, they should have been of

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United States Patent US3262042 was filed two years before Kearns filed, and was also granted before Kearns. It appears to be the earliest US patent for an intermittent windshield wiper - it was granted, and the only other patents it cites are nor for intermittent wipers. The patent owner was Lucas,

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Before 1960, most American cars had wipers pointing in opposite directions, but I'm seeing the parallel system on pictures of full size Mercury of 1959 and 1960, although I am seeing the "pork chop" windshield wraparound still in use (an unusual combination of windshield and geometry of the wipers).

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OK, we have the "Geometry" section. Notice that coming into 1960, most U.S. cars were still being made with Figure 2 but with less (no?) overlap of the 2 wipers, resulting in a wedge down the middle which could not be wiped. As noted, Figure 1 cleans most of the window space in front of the driver

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ENGVAR says we should avoid these moves for any reason. They're just not worth the hassle. It would only be a matter of time before the US titled articles are requested to be moved to UK spellings for consistency with them, or vice versa. Seeing as the redirects take you to the right place at the

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Pantograph wipers, OTOH, are used on many commercial vehicles, especially buses with large windshields. Pantograph wipers feature two arms for each blade, with the blade assembly itself supported on a horizontal bar connecting the two arms. I believe one arm is attached to the motor, while the other

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While the odd website may use the term, I can assure you that no Briton would ever use it in speech. Most may understand it due to the influence of the American media, but none would actually use it. Changing for consistency's sake would open a massive can of worms as far as ENGVAR is concerned. --

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No flaw at all, since ENGVAR states that articles which deal with common objects not specific to one country should remain in the variant of English in which they were originally written. My point was that ENGVAR trumps COMMONNAME in such articles and claiming that more webpages use one form rather

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I'm not very familiar with the various technicalities involving policies like ENGVAR & COMMONALITY, however there is a flaw in your logic about the number of countries that use the term and their potential misrepresentation on the internet. It might be fact that most webpages eminate from North

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OK, that's true, I may have forgot to put it in quotes (very unlike me) but I'm confused as to how "windshield wipers" gets 14.1 million and without quotes (i.e. less restrictive) gets much less, so I'm still not believing googles results. I don't think the Bing results are clear enough to warrant

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change one to the other) and I don't see why consistency between articles about such closely relate topics is any different. And I still really do not see any part of that guideline that applies to this discussion, if you actually read the guideline, because this isn't about one variety being "more

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I don't like where that arguement could possibly lead. In this case there is a clear "parent" article so it's not so likely to cause problems but what about cases where the parent article isn't so clear or where there's more than one parent. In those cases we would end up having long discussions

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I deleted the erroneous assertion that rear wipers were "invented" by a Ford engineer in 1972, since they were standard equipment on Volvo station wagons starting with the 1970 model year, and were available on high-end Italian cars (e.g. Lancia Flaminia) as early as the 1950s. Can anyone confirm

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ENGVAR is there to try to stop arguements, reversions etc. If we allow this we'll just going to be shifting the arguement to is the COMMONNAME clear enough in this case. In this case it's rather clear but where do we draw the line - there's no easy definable place so it's better, in my opinion,

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mentions even more possibilities: a Gladstone Adams of Newcastle upon Tyne (a 1911 patent he said had been stolen by someone else called Capstaff, who patented it in the USA); Prince Henry of Prussia (for his Benz car in 1911); and a reference to the existence of hand-operated wipers in France in

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The list of cars using the "Fig. 2" wiper geometry has gotten way too long. I think the caption should be changed to "Numerous vehicles use this wiper geometry", with a footnote that can list all the relevant models. Could somebody with expertise in Knowledge (XXG) "Group notes" set this up?

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is on an idle pivot. The pantograph mechanism, while being more complex, allows the blade to cover more of the windshield on each wipe. However, it also usually requires the wiper to be "parked" in the middle of the windshield, where it may partially obstruct the driver's view when not in use.

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article was created back in June 2003, with the wiper article following in December 2003. As the wiper is a component of the windshield itself (a wiper can't work without the windscreen/windshield, or else it would be something else entirely), the first established term (Windshield) should be

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This article's title uses the term "windscreen," while the article on the piece of glass in question uses "windshield." It seems to me that they ought to be consistent, and I thought about moving this to "windshield wiper" on that basis, but I took a look at "what links here" and I think that

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offered? (To answer the anonymous question above, yes, airflow over a sedan's rear window often precludes the need for a wiper, whereas a wagon's rear window is exposed to road spray in relatively stagnant air, and the steeply-raked rear window of some sports cars makes them prone to water

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How does this differ from the system whereby washer fluid is dispensed from holes in a plastic tube that runs up the wiper arm? I had the latter on a 1989 Citroën CX and I believe similar systems were in use considerably earlier on commercial vehicles with large vertical windscreens.

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just to apply ENGVAR. Allowing excpetions could be a slipepry slope to real harm to the project and as keeping it at this name causes no real problem this is not a risk I think is worth taking even if I was convinced that windshield was overwhelmingly the common name (which I'm not).

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be overcome by a persuasive enough COMMONNAME argument, but search engine results are often tailored to a user's location and other preferences, so it would require much clearer results than what's listed above). But two alternative arguments have swayed me: one, consistency with

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was created in June 2003 and windscreen wiper was created in December 2003. The American English was already the first name chosen and should be retained according to ENGVAR. It shouldn't matter if it is a separate page because it is a component related to the windshield.

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22:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC) What makes some windshield wipers better than others? I find it hard to believe that you have to buy a $ 50K car to get a decent set of windshield wipers. What can people with average cars do to ensure they have the best possible wipers?

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The "parallel" system (wipers in rest position pointing to right when the driver is on left) cleans as much space as possible in front of the driver, and it would have to point in the opposite rest position for driving on the opposite side of the road.

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The interesting part is it looks like Ford acknowledged it by paying him something See "Kearns had gained some vindication in the form of $ 30 million in settlements from Ford and Chrysler, but he never got what he had sought from the beginning."

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Not really no and certainly not something important enough to risk the possible disruption that would be caused if we tried to implement something based on "parent" articles given that "parent" article is a pretty alien concept to wikipedia.

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No, not particularly. On the contrary, it reminds readers of the richness and variety of the English language and that wikipedia editors come from many different cultures. And it's always funny to stumble upon silly parochialisms.

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correct", it's about already having chosen one variety for this topic. It doesn't say anything in line with "avoid these moves for any reason." Perhaps that was the intent of those who wrote it, but it certainly doesn't say that.

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A year before Mary Anderson's patent, some guy named Henry Bayer patented a windshield wiper. US Patent 724534. Looks to me like Mary Anderson is the feminist equivalent to the many black invention myths floating around.

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But how is that relevant to this article? In this case it is rather clear, but you are saying it shouldn't be moved because someone might have a similar argument where the relation isn't as clear on another article?

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The article mentions that rear wipers are found on square-backed vehicles; why are they not found on sedans? Is the airflow better? It seems like the rear window of a sedan, which faces up, would gather more water.

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to "Windscreen" as an alternative to the move proposed here... that would certainly be acceptable from a consistency standpoint. If you are suggesting that both articles should move ("Windshield" to "Windscreen"

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arrangement (with the wipers pointing in opposite directions when in the down position) would have been possible (in which case both wipers could have been of the uneven-arm pantograph configuration).

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Came to this page looking for clear definitions on specific types of wipers blades, such as framed, frameless beam-types and hybrid blades, which are a combination of both frame and beam types.

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What led you to the second conclusion? I live in the UK and to me it's most defnitely a "windscreen". If you can show me what led to your conclusion I may change my !vote above.

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Would like to add info that windshields can't be cleaned with glass cleaner if there is roadgrime or wax on them. They need to be cleaned with a razor, window polish or bonami.

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Maybe it should. It's a rare enough case I'm not surprised it's not called out specifically as an exception, but that's what we're here for: to help define those edge cases.

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Pivot (or radial) wipers are attached to a single arm, which in turn is attached to the motor. These are commonly found on many cars, trucks, trains, boats, airplanes, etc.

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Kearns invented the intermittent wiper mechanism, i.e., the device that lets you adjust the speed for different rains. He never claimed to have invented the wiper itself.

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I don't understand this. Who said anything about whether the topic was a proper name or not? We're perfectly free to discuss titles of articles that are not proper names.

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The new argument is consistency with related terms and the fact that it is more widespread with use even in the UK while windscreen is never used in the US and Canada.

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for more information on searching for specific terms) I doubled checked using Google.co.uk (instead of .com), I got the same results I did as using .com. Furthermore

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for a lengthy exposition of why move requests between national varieties is a waste of time for next-to-no gain, and thus why the community rejects them outright.

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I was thinking, shouldn't there be a section devoted to the ongoing maintenance and potential problems with windshield wipers and certain unique types?

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guideline that expressly forbids this type of nomination -- the argument is about consistency, not about picking the term used in a particular country.

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arrangement (both wipers pointing in the same direction—usually if not always toward the passenger side—when in the down position), though I suppose an

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about which is "parent" and possible switching between English variations based on which one different people think is "parent" which is exactly what

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There seems to be a small number of industry standards used to attach wipers (and replacement wipers) to a car. These might be worth mentioning. --

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says use the most common name—I assume that to mean the one used by the most people on the Internet, since that is our audience. On the other hand,

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I don't think a speedy close is appropiate as a) a different arguement is raised and b) 9 months has passed since the last discussion and

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a

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Stable, no reason to change, no reason to argue. Too many countries use Windscreen and there is no such thing as a parent article.

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There is no call for such a change, we only require interarticle consistency and in any case, you should go through the process at

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Any insight that could be provided regarding these devices by those with knowledge and access to resources would be appreciated.

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I still think that ENGVAR arguement is invalid (although I'd agree that the COMMONALITY one has some merit). Should we rename

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That's rather unprofessional, don't you think? I have a hard time imagining any other encyclopedia with such a discrepancy.

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says don't change between varieties of English unnecessarily and retain the original spelling. Can somebody clarify for me? –

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I don't know how common it may be in the UK, but it most certainly has been used in UK news articles. Some examples from the

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by using American terms for international topics. Added suggestion: it would likely also be acceptable to propose swapping

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The whole issue of the inventor looks highly open to debate. Solid citations for Anderson, Hofmann and Mills Munitions? The

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that guideline, it calls for internal consistency (meaning if an article refers first to "color" and then to "colour", you

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I just added a reqphoto because, despite all the photos, we don't have a picture of a regular automobile windshield wiper.

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I agree with the nominator that it doesn't make a lot of sense for the respective articles to be named

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no "bias" with the search as claimed. Also everyone opposing this move and hiding behind

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Somebody needs to find and include some information about pivot and pantograph wipers.

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https://web.archive.org/20101202140916/http://web.mit.edu/invent/iow/anderson.html

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Yeah, I came to this page just to laugh at how woke Knowledge (XXG) is becoming.

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Adding &pws=0 to the google search string eliminates personal search bias.

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I don't recall making such an argument. Did you mean to reply to Necrothesp?

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retained based on WP:ENGVAR it self. In this case it seems WP:ENGVAR actually

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as I'm not yet convinved that windshield is used and understodod in the UK.

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common noun not a proper name. I think a speedy close here is appropriate.--

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And me. I've never once heard it referred to as a windshield in the UK. --

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after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add

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if you could get the 'Windshield' article renamed to 'Windscreen'. --

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Is there a specified term for the nozzles that spray cleaning fluid?

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal.

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to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

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as I have found usages of "Windshield" on UK sites posted above.)

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.

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Neatness, really. It's hardly a major matter either way, but even

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I do see "Modern windscreen wipers usually move in parallel".

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but it is a little disconcerting to have articles to be named

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I was basing it on the UK Google results mentioned upthread.

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I don't know what to say about this article. Some guy called

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allows to avoid using names specific to a variety of English

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When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the

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I have just added archive links to one external link on

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I have a picture of a rotary "wiper" on a ship's bridge

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does not apply to national varieties of English (see

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