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1408:), the family Testudinidae in McDowell’s (1964) classification. This general scheme currently stands, although each of these groups is now treated as a full family and the name Geoemydidae replaced Bataguridae because of priority reasons (Fritz & Havaš 2007; Rhodin et al. 2010). McDowell (1964) real- ized the close relationship of the four Nearctic Clemmys species, of Terrapene and the Old World species Emys orbicularis, all of which were placed by him in the ‘ Emys complex’. Yet, McDowell (1964) did not include Emy- doidea blandingii in this group, but in the distinct ‘ Deirochelys complex’, together with Deirochelys reticularia. In doing so, McDowell followed Loveridge & Williams (1957), acknowledging that the morp hological similarity of skull, neck, and thoracic rib morphology of Deirochelys and Emydoidea reflects a close relationship." 31: 864: 156: 135: 89: 64: 1991: 1404:
Sacalia. McDowell (1964) discovered that most Old World and New World freshwater turtles represent highly distinct groups. Consequently, he placed all Old World species plus the extraterritorial Neotropical genus Rhinoclemmys in the subfamily Batagurinae and the New World species plus the Palaearctic genus Emys in the Emydinae. These two subfamilies constituted, along with land tortoises (
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the subject matter of the paper. The IUCN not dealing with fossil taxa leave those categories out, and hence also leave out the sub categories in the living taxa that are needed to place them. Here we are listing all the taxa, hence we must make the existing taxa make heirarchical sense. This is why I put them in. Cheers.
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There is a fundamental problem with the presentation of this article. The definition in the lead section is presented as definitive and unique, but the section immediately following, "Use of the terms turtle, tortoise and terrapin", contradicts this idea. Then the remainder of the article proceeds to
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markup and I don't understand it well enough to apply it. I'm going to hunt around for an article which employs it, so I can use it as a model. If anyone knows of any good examples, let me know. In the interim, it would be great if anyone who knows it could markup the partial species list here for
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I've rearranged the pics in gallery format so that might make it quicker to load. However I don't think there are too many pics in this article because the trend now (certainly in the UK where I live) is for broadband to become the norm. Then we'll regret restricting the number of pics in an article
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has a diet for tortoises which includes "< 5% High-Protein Content Foods. Dry maintenance dog food, primate chow, pelleted parrot chows, tofu, various cereals (crisped rice, corn flakes, grape nuts, bran flakes, etc), sardines with bones, whole mice, baby mice, large carnivore diets, and scrambled
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The graphic is a bit oversimplified. 'Tortoise' has a specific scientific meaning- a member of the Family Testudinidea, and American Box Turtles are the Family Emydidea, Genus Terrepena. The US may call a Box Turtle a 'tortoise' (although Europeans are more likely to call them "Box Tortoises", we do
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The first part of the page before the contents needs to be cleaned and cleared up. First it says that Tui Malila is the oldest ever at 188 or 192. Then it says that another tortoise, Adwaitya, "was thought to be over 250". I know the former may be considered the oldest because the latter hasn't been
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Whenever a group is described all relevant groups are implicitly put in place also. That is for the Xerobatinae to exist so to must the Testudininae. As stated above they cannot be destroyed. What happens is that some papers decide not to use sub categories. This is fine and is usually dependant on
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After McDowell’s (1964) pioneering osteological study revising the ‘aquatic Testudinidae’, Clemmys was restricted to the four Nearctic species Clemmys guttata , C. insculpta , C. marmorata and C. muhlenbergii, while the remaining Old World species were transferred to the genera Mauremys and
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Tortoise droppings have recently been used by EcoWorld Ltd in the development of ecologically friendly carrier bags; the chemical makeup of Tortoise feces shares the 1-4 hydrogen bond which is critical to the strength and durability of plastic, and by super heating it is possible to create a strong
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It's not that simple. Even ignoring the Australian usage, two different definitions are given: all terrestrial "turtles", or only those that are members of "Testudinidae". The problem is exactly as I described. The article first says that tortoises are X. Then it says that they can be X, Y or Z,
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The problem is that, according to the ICZN, once a governed taxon is named it can't be unnamed (and in fact, it explicitly states that even if a subfamily is not named, it is taken to have been created and named by the same author at the same time the family was named). So Testudininae certainly
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My wife is from Vietnam and says that tortoise meat there is more expensive "and tastes better" than the meat from aquatic turtles. Not sure if this is true and don't think that I can cite wife to change the article :-) so I am wondering if anyone else knows anything about this and can provide
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It is interesting because I have seen articles about Addwaitya that claim he was the oldest and ones that say it cannot be determined. Who is to say which articles we believe and use? I think merely saying that "there is debate as to whether it was in actual fact the oldest living..." etc is
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in 1883, as reported by the latter, also did not remove the medulla from the animals. There are no reproducible results where anything other than death occurs, and quite a bit of neuroscience that post-dates the drivel about brainless tortoises currently being promoted by this article.
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I have begun editing this article starting with the taxonomy, I will bring it into line with the Chelonian Research Institutes 2009 Checklist for turtles as this is probably the best resource available. It is used by the IUCN and most Turtle biologists. Any comments please contact
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The shell grows just like our bones - it's continuously eaten away & re-deposited by the body, getting bigger as the animal does. As for their evolution, do you mean the evolution of tortoises from turtles, or turtles from a non-turtle ancestor? The latter is covered on the
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Does anybody know why isn’t being mentioned as the earliest testudinid? I know Lucas 2002 moved it to Emydidae, but he doesn’t explain why, and loads of papers (Yeh, 1979 through Tong et al. 2016, plus the PbDb) leave it in Testudinidae. It’s Paleocene, so it should predate .
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may not be published in Knowledge. Articles should contain only material that has been published by reliable sources, regardless of whether individual editors view that material as true or false. As counter-intuitive as it may seem, the threshold for inclusion in Knowledge is
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Book Information The Last Tortoise: A tale of extinction in our lifetime, by Craig B. Stanford. Published by Harvard University Press. Craig Stanford, professor of biology and anthropology at the University of Southern California, recognizes 45 species of living tortoises.
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I'm going to start updating this at some point. It's a major task because not just this article but many tortoise articles are affected. I also imagine that the new taxonomy wants to be appropriately referenced so it could take some time. I'm planning on using the
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In the part that discusses the usage of the word "tortoise", it is claimed that Americans refer to all land-dwelling chelonians as "tortoises" including "box tortoises". The link itself gives lie to the claim because the Knowledge article it leads to is entitled
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I'm happy to add any of these photos back if anyone feels there is any reason to. Eight photos in the gallery of a 600-word article, when most of these photos properly belong with the specific articles on the individual species they depict, seemed
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In the Brain section there are several statements indicating tortoises can survive without a brain or after decapitation. This is nonsense. These statement should be removed or worded in a way which seriously underplays the robustness of this.
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I'll agree there are far too many pictures here. Predicted UK averages or not, these images don't add anything to the article beyond decoration. One or two of these should be more than enough. I'll let someone else decide which to keep.
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I am thinking that the taxonomy section does not really need to list all the species. genera with references would be fine. The template at the bottom could be updated to include all the species. Seems a bit of duplication. Cheers
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is even necessary in this article, as it makes clear that everybody uses tortoises for the land-dwelling species whether or not they call the broader category "turtles" or restrict the term "turtle". This is an issue for the
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At least some species of tortoise can swim. Vinke and Vetter's book "South American Tortoises" shows photos of swimming Red-foot Tortoises (Chelonoidis carbonaria). It probably depends on ratio of lung volume to weight as a
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indicates that young tortoises take a small amount of animal protein. By the way, it would be good if some biology-minded individual looked through that article, to make sure I got all the jargon terms correct. Thanks.
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is not the oldest tortoise. I see absurd newspaper articles about all sorts of ridiculous things from alien abductions to reports of giant hamsters, each of which has been reported in respected newspapers, this
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Im going to remove the following as it doesnt really make sense. Tried to find a source for it but no joy. If anyone can find a source please put it back in because i'd like it to be true but suspect it isnt
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Do we have any more recent sources about this? I'm pretty skeptical of the idea of a tortoises surviving without its head or brain, but I don't just want to delete it, as it actually is sourced and I know
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depending on the definition used. Then it gives a bunch of further information without explaining which of X, Y and/or Z is being assumed (or, if it doesn't matter, explaining that it doesn't matter).
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I did a clean up on this a little while ago, to make it more consistent, and more readable. I used an conservation status template that has since been obsoleted. I've had a look at the new
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Since this has been flagged since May and it doesn't seem to be contentious or attracting a great amount of debate, I've gone with the majority (2 to 1) and reduced the gallery by half.
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As far as I am aware it is still considered a stem Testudinidae, Chiarenza et al 2023 seem to still consider it as this though they are not reviewing the taxonomy in that paper.
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currently under discussion at the ICZN. Will continue as quickly as I can. I have made a note that it is a work in progress and left your outdated tags in for the moment.
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article, not the tortoise article. The only exception noted is common Australian usage of "tortoise" for freshwater turtles which is stated to be considered incorrect.
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But no "news"paper is a reliable source... Who does the original reseach into what is reliable...? ;) Looks like Knowledge has created it's own logic error... --
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Based on the above threshold, a comment about Addwaitya as the oldest Tortoise is not only appropriate but to criticize others for adding it was simply wrong. --
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The page cited to corroborate that the Oldest living vertebrate is a Koi called Hanako seems pretty iffy. It would seem that more rigorous citation is needed.
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reported, at the time, being unable to reproduce this, and that rather removing the medulla caused immediate death. He did experiments where he removed the
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was the oldest turtle. This may or may not be true; in any event there appears to be significant disagreement about this fact. If you do not believe
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exists in the taxonomic system even if most current researchers don't use it. I'd recommend keeping it in the auto taxonomy template (containing only
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There is nothing in the article about the evolution of tortoises. I would also be fascinated to learn how a tortoise shell grows as the animal ages.
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That news story is not about all tortoises. And this article does not claim that op tortoises are extinct. No changes to be article are necessary.
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Should not the section on terminology clarify that in British English, the word "turtle" is normally used solely to refer to a marine reptile?
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I've marked this taxonomy section as out of date and the infobox subgroups as dubious as available references conflict. Relevant references
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I created a new page where people can keep adding pop culture content, so that this page can focus on the biology. We have done the same at
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IUCN turtle taxonomy working group 2011 Rhodin, Anders G.J.; van Dijk, Peter Paul; Inverson, John B.; Shaffer, H. Bradley; Roger, Bour
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Taxonomy for this article up to date now, however many species pages need to be updated. I have done enough to make them llink to date.
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Er, this sounds pretty stupid. Maybe someone should replace the word "magic" with something more accurate and scientific sounding.
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Not Tortoises I'm afraid... Not even close. Deep sea invertebrates in marginal environments are waaay older (multi-centennial)
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at all, but does give other subfamilies. Xerobatinae wouldn't be mentioned because they only deal with extant after 1500AD.
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is a verifiable and reliable source, please feel to disregard this. However, as Knowledge says on its own comments about
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Do land tortoises swim at all? How long can they swim for? If one puts them in a bucket of water what will happen?
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Thanks. Its mad how some people jump straight in changing things without actually bothering to check if there true!
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list, what the criteria are for inclusion in the list, and what would be required for this to be designated a full
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was indeed over 250 years old why wasn't he verified as the oldest 60 years ago when he would have been older than
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and the animals lived and were paralyzed. But even his conclusions were overturned later in the 19th century, by
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tortoises are shielded from predators by a shell (however tortoises, unlike animals without shells, have a shell).
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The image in the upper right-hand corner of the tortoise page is mislabeled. That is an Aldabra not a Galap...
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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I have not verified any of the status attributions; in my tidy up all I did was format and clean, not verify.
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is now the oldest living Cheloniinae are entirely unverified having only just been mentioned in the press. If
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or hard boiled eggs (with shells). Increase to 10% for hinged-back, angulate, brown and impressed tortoises."
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carrier which leaves virtually no carbon footprint, and will decompose within two months of being buried..
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article are true. In fact, editors are strongly discouraged from conducting this kind of research, because
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Are you going to edit the bit about Tui Malila in light of the information about Robert Clive's tortoise?
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that sounds strange... i'm assuming this is some sort of vandalism. 14:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC) fix
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this all seems like a massive hole. I am no tortoise pet keeper so I won't try and start a section.
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give a bunch of information about the animals, but without saying which definition it is using.
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can function to some degree without their brains, and tortoises have pretty slow metabolisms.
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images on this article? Makes it awfully slow to load for those of us still 56K. . . . . .
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IUCN turtle taxonomy working group checklist 2011 and all previous years does not mention
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I just cross-linked it to another section for now. I also don't keep tortoises as pets.
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Look, I like tortoises, too, and it's sad they're endangered, but do we really need
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Have marked it out of date due to subfamily issues see discussion below! Regards,
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is historic, as 'these groups is now treated as a full family' does not apply to
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solo shots, since all three of those tortoises appear in the group shot with the
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scientificly tested or something, but it should be re-written to sound clearer.
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evidence to back up their claim. Whether its true or not, unitil this has been
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Think that you should add a link to Turtles and tortoises in popular culture:
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as an alternative in the first sentence. dictionary.com still make the claim
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It is, not to put too fine a point on this, early 19th century bollocks.
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So which species are commonly used as pets? no section on care as pets?
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and or Testudinini for the same reason) but setting it not to display.
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The removed images (should someone wanrt to add them back in) are:
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turtles. Secondly as the article states - they have not presened
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not use the terms 'Box Turtle' and 'Tortoise' interchangeably.
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I know most species don't, but do we need a section on this?
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Heres another picture should anyone want to use on the page.
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should remain the oldest. I will edit this accordingly.
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Can someone who knows their tortoises please clarify.
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