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910:"Taiwanese" is essentially the same dialect as the Min Nan dialect spoken in southern Fujian province. There are only few minor differences the spoken accents, but it should be considered the same language (just like British English and American English). The reason why there are two different names for the same language is because of the political status between People's Republic of China and Republic of China. However, since this is an article on a language, there is no reason why it should be influenced by politics. I suggest combining both articles and call it Min Nan, because of the origin of this language. 516: 235: 411: 506: 485: 258: 401: 380: 611: 590: 621: 203: 349: 939:
Deleted the comment exaggerating the minor variation between Minnan in Taiwan and Minnan in Southern Fujian because of a few Japanese loanwords to the effect of the revolutionary discrepancy between modern English and old Anglo-saxon speech due to the influence of the Normans.
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I was unfortunately unaware of any existing convention. While the article, unlike the other concerned, discusses a fairly united language (rather than a possibly confusing group of languaes/dialects), the naming convention stands fairly well as is.
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The Japanese character (as used in this article) バ renders as pa for me, the character パ. I don't know if this was a user error or on my end, however when I go to edit the page to fix the problem...the correct character displays.
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We arrived at this current compromise between using "language" and "dialect" after a lot of discussion and debate. Those discussions are scattered all over the place... I think
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aren't taiwanese also written using zhuyin at times? i remember seeing a lot of taiwanese lyrics written using zhuyin (bopomofo).
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Additionally, i would suggest replacement or removal of the example "vagina". it sounds a little unprofessional. --
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Move would assert unwanted POV re status as language/dialect. Ran outlined existing conventions very well.
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The official language in Republic of China (common known as Taiwan) is Mandarin, not Taiwanese Hokkien.
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Just to clarify, the character renders as pa in the article and ba in the edit.
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Taiwanese is a national language under the National Languages Development Act.
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If you want to propose a change to all of the above, I suggest taking it up at
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does mention that Arabic and Chinese require special naming conventions. --
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I agree that Taiwanese should be described in the Min-nan article. Visik
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I would like to see this article translated into other languages. --
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