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332:(Just in case you don't wanna search for it, quote from Draiman: "Well, I don’t know about 'Mr. Smiley'. I haven’t heard about 'Morbus'. He’s definitely 'The Guy'! ... Mike’s little nephew used to see the two-dimensional icon and used to be really afraid of him. He used to whisper 'That’s the guy! That’s the guy, isn’t it!' So the name kind of stuck. He’s definitely 'The Guy'." The name has sentimental value to the band, and now all the fans are trying to change it...) -- 139: 71: 121: 53: 257:"Finally, if you listen to the song "Stricken", you can vaguely make out a voice in the background, but not during the chorus. (confirmation required)" This truly belongs here in the discussion portion of the article before it is published in the main article. If someone can confirm this, then I'm sure a small mention of differences in the songs can be mentioned in the main article. - 22: 1177:
To update on this, I've managed to track down mentions of instrumental version but only on obscure file-sharing forums. I can't confirm that there was a retail release, and if not, adjustments should be made to be made to this page to reflect that (unless someone else can verify a legitimate release
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A lot of these are from sources! The internet ones sometimes close, though, and a lot of others are written sources, from magazines! And sources from the booklet (that show personnel). So, no, this article is NOT without it's sources, it just fails to cite them! Stop deleting the information, or
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Doesn't it strike anyone how similar Disturbed's new "mascot" is to Iron Maiden's Eddie ? Even in the "Land of Confusion" video, it sorta behaves the same way that Eddie would (leading the masses, fighting the corrupt system, etc). When he frees himself from his chains, it kinda produced a flashback
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i also put up the bonus tracks a few weeks ago but they have been taken down and i don't see why--is it because i didn't state my sources? i'm the damn source because i have the tracks and they're from this album!! i thought i'd let other people know that if they searching for all of ditrubed songs
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What the hell is up with this and Believe? How come they are able to stay how they are when they include ZERO sources but other pages such as for the band Port Amoral cant even get a page because four resources are rejected for no reason? You people are so fucking stupid to not even follow your own
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Well now we're just blatantly engaging in an edit war. I won't do that. That said, neither could you personally report me. This is a conflict of interest. You can't assume I'm trying to damage the article just because I disagree with you. I just wanted to note that, although I'm sure you're well
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Using Indestructible's talk page consensus as a precedent, I motion the Rolling Stone review be removed from the Ten Thousand Fists page due to an error in fact that was never corrected or addressed, and I also motion it does not qualify as a full professional review, being barely a paragraph in
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That doesn't make it any less accessible than it was three years ago. The problem is that we failed to cite the sources for magazines here. Had the sources been cited, we would have had valid references. As it is now, this article is Start-class. I aim to bring it up to a B-Class.
1100:, so that would be original research without a source. That said, I'm sure the article means to mention it as though it's his first album appearing full-bodied as the centerpiece. Still, I intend to take this information out of the article anyways; it's completely trivial. 584:
Not true, if it's a reliable publication, it's reliable. Magazines are potentially more reliable than internet sources, because they're less likely to disappear one day. And it's accessible to anyone, because anyone can go to a store and buy a magazine.
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people think we should make an article for it. There's a lot of information about him, and how the band went to somebody (forgot his name) to get a logo for the band, and how it evolved over time. Just an idea, constructive criticism appreciated.
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First time the Guy appears on the album? He was on The Sickness, but not in a 3D form. I'm not sure if there is a "reliable" source for it, but then again is there a source saying that TTF is the first time he appears on the album?
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I know of at least two songs that have been used on soundtracks to video games. Decadence on Need for Speed: Most wanted; and Stricken on GH3. Sure there is more, should there be any mention of these?
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Look, I don't want to get involved in an incident, I'm just passing by and don't even hardly know what this page is about, but you guys need to calm down, cut the obscenities, and just plain cool it. --
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I've not been able to find a single copy of the anniversary or instrumental editions of this album on sale anywhere or mentioned otherwise. Can anyone confirm they actually exist, with sources?
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Who was the douchebag who deleted the bonus tracks from the listing? I have never seen an album that has bonus tracks on the special edition not have them listed. I will be puting them back up.
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Not that I like Disturbed or anything but someone thought it would be funny to change all instances of "Ten Thousand Fists" to "Ten Thousand Fists In My Ass." I removed the changed -Some dude
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ok I'll tone down my language from now on, but I still think we should at least try to find a source. Most of the article is obviousally true or has resources in other articles anyways.
314:, Not Morbus, which is his name by the way. The two may act the same, but they are fictional characters, both representing metal bands, there are going to be some resemblances. 749:
Well seriousally you should calm down, but I agree. Articles shouldn't exist without a source that everyone can see. It's stupid people cant follow their own rules on here.
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Oh and how can there be a source when no one can see it? Its like me saying David Draiman just got his testicles ripped off, but I cant prove it cause its in a magazine.
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you will be reported for intentionally compromising the dignity of the article, and disrupting the flow of Knowledge to prove a point, both of which are violations.
792:(unindent) Look. I hate to break into something, but seriously, guys, cool down! If you complain there are no sources, well, wow, why don't you go look for some? 570:
A source is only reliable if everyone can see it. Otherwise its just hearsay. It may exist but its just like iTunes, not everyone can see it so its not reliable.
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were both the same user, he and his sockpuppets have all been blocked. This particularly profane section of the talk page could probably safely be archived now.
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i dunno where you heard that but that's wrong. the song is on the stricken single and on the band's myspace page, but that's it. no best buy exclusive anything.
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This page shouldn't directly have lyrics, due to possible copyright infringement, but you can post a link to a site that has lyrics for this album, such as
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Oh if you mean the part where he yells "run" then yeah there is another voice, but its just a echo. If you listen good enough you can tell its Draiman.
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Not if the magazine isn't at the store, which since the album is from three years ago, I highly doubt any magazines about it still exist in stores.
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I don't see how any of these apply to most of these song articles. I would think it would be better to merge them into the album article.
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was technically an album, so Rolling Stone was technically correct, and this review is technically fine. You technically understand?
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Plus, magazines are indeed reliable sources. But I would ask you to please tone down the language and vulgar content of your posts.
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I created a page for Diefy, and linked to it. Now the link actually links to something other than the literal meaning.
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What about the song "Hell"? Apparently it was one of the bonus tracks, but only available if bought through Best Buy. --
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This album states no resources, so shouldnt their be some? Hardly any of the album can be proven without resources.
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Yes I know, but without everyone being able to see them, dont you think their less reliable than a internet one?
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If this was released in 2005, why is it filed under 2002 albums? Maybe I am not reading something correctly... -
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The point brought up is a great one: this IS Disturbed's fourth album, but not their fourth studio album.
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Should this article contain album lyrics? I don't believe wikipedia is a repository for music lyrics. --
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I switched the two cover images around, because logically the regular image should be at the top.
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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gay little fucking rules. So get some fucking sources for the page or eat a CockMeatSandwhich!
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Evil sockpuppet people and I looked and could not find any resources for it.
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Well that's pretty unconfirmed. He appears noticeably as the centerpiece of
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I noticed that all the songs from this album have a separate article.
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is the link I promised to the RSM where they're evaluating the
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of this material). No word on the 10th anniversary edition.
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I'm gonna re-state: Everybody can access magazines.
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