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I'm sorry but how does the fact that Tao is the youngest winner have anything to do with China's IMO selection process? Who cares what China's IMO selection process is or any other country's selection process is? If China is stupid enough to discriminate by age instead of by score, then tough luck.
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I'm not sure why the recent anonymous editor considers it more informative to describe the Fields medal as "an award for young...". Makes it sound like some minor award for some yet-to-be-tenured mathematician. I would go by the fact that articles don't start describing the medal like this, for, I
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I am the firstborn child of
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Lol! I don't think it's appropriate to measure genius according to a mere test/IQ test. I read about lots of unusually high IQ super smart child prodigies who failed to produce groundbreaking results. So why look at his childhood? Look at him now and his RESEARCH work, and btw I got to PERSONALLY
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That particular story about myself seems to have grown in the retelling. I personally don’t remember it, but as I understand it, I was trying to explain to some slightly older kids how to count, using number blocks. I suppose this could be called “teaching mathematics”, but not of a particularly
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Garnett (UCLA) compared him to Mozart, a few newspapers picked up the "mozart of maths" title, and now somebody added it prominently to the article in the belief that this is a notable nickname.
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