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253: 222: 797:) = 25.5 trains per hour, which is completely doable; with three trains, one can be dispatched about every 2 minutes or so. That calculation doesn't account for operation after park closing (the line remains open until closing time, and anyone in line at that time still gets to ride even if that takes another hour or more), private events (of which there are seven this year), and early ride times for Gold Pass holders for a few years through last year, all of which increase the number of riders. That said, I've clarified it in the article. 396: 369: 639:'s immense popularity with coaster enthusiasts, Mrs. Voss become close friends with members of American Coaster Enthusiasts and began inviting them back each morning to ride with her. This became a tradition known as the "ACE Walk Back". Upon her retirement from King's Island, Mrs. Voss was given a re-furbished car from the coaster, so that she would not have to miss her beloved Beast. She passed away shortly thereafter and the park continues the "ACE Walk Back" in her honor. 313: 406: 337: 499: 511: 191: 792:
The 45 million figure refers not to the number of trains dispatched, but to number of individual riders, of which there can be 36 per train. 45 million divided by 36 riders per train = 1.25 million trains divided by 33 seasons = 37,879 trains per year divided by about 1,484 public operating hours per
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Just did a little math on this. 33 years in operation means 1,363,636 rides per year. Divided by 365 brings it to 3736 rides per day. Divided by 24 brings to 156 rides per hour. At over 4 minutes per ride, it couldn't have made 45 million runs even if it had been running every second of every day
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Originally, each train car was made up of four rows of seats. Early in the ride's history, the cars were shortened to three rows each. If one looks carefully, the loading gates in front of each row are still arranged in groups of four. Also, the trains' original color scheme started as red in the
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Wooden coaster designer John Allen (who designed the park's Racer roller coaster) was initially contacted to design the ride. However at the time of the Beast's concept, he was dedicated to retiring and opted to not become involved. Nonetheless, during a consultation visit to the park, Allen
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That's very possible, or perhaps the marketing cost (and other non-construction costs) are getting factored in at times, leading to different totals. Good stuff though! Should we leave it as $ 3.2 for now? We could also change the wording to say "at least $ 3.2 million" and maybe add an
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Generally speaking, Charles Dinn was in charge of construction, but should we be naming the "company" and not the lead engineer in the infobox? The company would be Kings Island Engineering and Construction or perhaps just Kings Island. This was before
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For a few seasons, the watermill effects of the loading station actually worked, emptying into a small body of water under the queue line and beginning of the ride. This paid tribute to the canoe ride which formerly occupied the
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Al Collins, the lead designer and project manager, is known among coaster enthusiasts as "The Man Behind the Beast" or "The Father of The Beast". Ironically, he has never ridden the coaster.
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I'm going to restore the $ 3.2 million figure for now, but we can continue to look at additional resources and revisit over time as needed. New comments/thoughts are always welcome! --
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by its definition is "unimportant information" - it therefore shouldn't be in a trivia section but instead the information should be incorporated into the main article. -
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Due to its construction (the ride follows the contour of the land as well as dropping into a tunnel below grade), the first drop is larger than the first lift.
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was originally going to be named "The Champion", possibly because it was destined to break all prior speed, height and length coaster records.
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scribbled the dynamics equations necessary to build the coaster on a napkin at the park's International Street Restaurant.
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Yeah, I think it's best if we say "at least $ 3.2 million" with a footnote explaining the 3.8 million figure. –
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in February 1979. I'm thinking that the final construction costs may have been more than the original budget. –
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No. "The Beast" can refer to several different things, so "The Beast" is used as a disambiguation page.
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note that clarifies the cost range and conflicting reports (we use efn a lot in film articles). --
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front, fading to orange and then yellow towards the back, as opposed to the solid red used today.
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Son of Beast last functioned in June 2009. The Beast is still functioning today.
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No problem. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something I was missing!
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Another tentative name for the ride was "Great Mountain Runaway Coaster."
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as the total construction cost of The Beast from 1977 to 1979. In a
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When was the last time this ride functioned, or even Son of Beast?
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Sorry, I mis-read the details - I've changed it to Kings Island.
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Kings Island's original head of Marketing, Ruth Voss, loved
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While this is interesting, we can't use it unless you
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