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same point in her book 'Other Minds'. So, the page certainly needs to include some information on this conception of the problem. Also, why is the problem elucidated by the step from qualia inversion to absent qualia? I've never seen the problem set up in this way, and I don't think it helps people to understand the problem at all. The responses are also poor, especially the 'Alternatives' section at the end. Sentences like, "all minds are fundamentally connected, we all differ in our own universes of thought but the overall universe is constant and binds us together", are unclear, unhelpful and, in my view, complete nonsense. So, what I propose is that the page needs to be entirely rewritten, taking into account the different aspects of the problem (i.e. epistemological, conceptual and metaphysical). The responses should include the argument from analogy (why isn't this already here? In the history of philosophy, this is the dominant form of argument offered as a solution to the problem of other minds), behaviourism (shows how moves in the metaphysics and concepts of other minds defuse the epistemological problem), solipsism, and perhaps some stuff from
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Here it is first said that a solipsist argues that there are no other minds than his own, i.e. that he claims he knows that, then a little later it says that the proponents claim that one can not know if there are other minds or not. This is contradictory, so either it should be reformulated or it
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