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2725:, so why do you keep reverting ALL edits by me and other editors? Am I the victim? No. The victim is truth. Consensus is a joke; evidence and facts are truth. You've chosen to ignore because you want a discussion that's not necessary. Again why do you keep reverting to think your way is right? You are flat wrong.
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I am the one reverting the change so I feel I can explain myself. The very reliable FIFA source that was used claimed 16 saves and the matchreports from FIFA are often left uncorrected. So with two sources against eachotheriot was a question of what was most reliable and it was (at least to me) whgat
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Then let me respond. DIfferent sources sau different things and that is why consensus is needed. You got reverted over and over again because you refused to discuss and find consensus and just went on editing (and you should probably already have been blocked earlier) This has nothing to do with how
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and unencyclopedic. It's a one-off incident that has barely received any international coverage. A week after the incident, nobody's talking about it. At the very least, it makes no sense to mention it in this article because the article is about Howard's playing career and he has not done anything.
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A note that the original count was 16 would make sense, but I'm opposed to the idea of using the FIFA PDF as a source in these articles, since it's a primary source. I've used the BBC article as not only is it extremely reliable, but it is also a secondary source, it uses the correct number, and it
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There are over 300 Google news sources discussing the "Secretary of
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and use excessive bolding, we can read anyway. When a text look like yours it is just not helping you., it only looks like a aggressive child not getting his wish through than a proper discussion. And as I have said in the past, if there is good reliable sources this has been corrected to 15 I can
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I have sent tweets to US Soccer, FIFAcom and FIFAmedia. We'll see who's right. But if they reply and you don't like the answer, I guess we need to go with yours because why exactly? The official match statistics show 15 saves. One of his punchouts on a corner cross was probably eliminated from the
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Okay, there's been a slow edit war going on over the question of what to list as Timmy's sport. Now, 'football' seems inappropriate, because many USMNT fans come to this page, but so is 'soccer', since many
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At the moment, because of this pdf-document made by FIFA you showed I am also willing to follow the "15 saves opinion", since it came out on 5 July (AFTER the 2 July text in which FIFA talks about 16 saves). So yes, it seems like available evidence proves you right. But, I also have to agree in
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Howard was eligible to play against Manchester United on 28 April 2007, and David Moyes could have picked him if he'd wanted, but as part of Howard's permanent transfer to Everton, Moyes and Alex Ferguson had come to a gentlemen's agreement that Howard would not play. This was not a contractual
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that shows you are wrong. Seriously, it's like you're a religion believing what you want and I'm the one atheist saying "but look at the evidence." And you don't care. There is nothing, and I repeat nothing, more official than the PDF from the event. The fact that there are comments about FIFA
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mean "a person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth", but it goes on to say that "native" may also mean "a local inhabitant". Anyway, for every source you come up with that says Howard was born in New Brunswick, I can come up with several that say he was born in North
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the opposite. Saying something is irrelevant. Qed has ignored all posts and reverted them despite having the proper citations (and all posts had said citation). Qed is the edit warrer here, I'm just getting articles to the correct state. He's a horrible wikipedia editor, and he has ruined my
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Can you find a source, other than Facebook, that states the save count was revised? The news stories say 16, the stat sheet says 15, but it's unclear the sequence of events. I can find a lot of Facebook pages that say the save count was changed, but nothing in an independent reliable source.
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Look, the PDF file seems very convincing to me. I hadn't seen it until today, since in the edits before this topic you only emphasized the statistics website. Note that I do appreciate your perseverance. Sometimes a lot of at first sight mean people jump on your edit with good intentions (I
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And for every source you claim I can claim several as well. Howard was born in New Brunswick, and the New Jersey Department of Health and Senior Services, Office of Vital Statistics concurs. Howard was born at St. Peter's Hospital, 254 Easton Ave, New Brunswick, NJ
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Do prevent the "16" from reappearing, can we please reference the PDF on all pages? Also perhaps make a note that the original count was 16 and it was changed? (I don't know how to do refs or notes.) I think this is relevant to all pages to prevent bad edits.
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PeeJay I see you are on the "15" side of this so I appreciate that. Let me clarify "consensus is a joke". Consensus is simply not needed if facts state something. If I show evidence that the sun is bigger than the earth, it doesn't matter if 10 people
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The edit war continues with editor Qed and others. Not only that, they make the edit and then accuse other editors of being the ones making the war. The webpage and the PDF for the game show 15 saves. We have proof that FIFA revised it from 16 to 15.
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FIFA documentation shows 15 saves. Any out-of-date articles are simply that: out of date. Even the YouTube video showing 16 saves is irrelevant because it's not the official FIFA documentation. (It looks like save #2 was probably discounted.)
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Hello! Can anyone tell me where's the source citation that reads that Howard will be eligible to play against Manchester United on 28 Apr 2007? Cos I have sources that point to the contrary, that he is not eligible. So which one is true?
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I go with 15 saves as the pdf file (which is the official one) was changed a few days later and is the most up-to-date (as already explained here). The other sources saying 16 are "older" than the pdf file, so 15 is the right choice.
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