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and are not real published sources like an interview, or a site reporting news that can be properly used on Knowledge, most of the time they are just links instead of the common referencing format; third, the article uses other sources that have no connection to the subject and are therefore irrelevant, like a book on Iridology that I'm sure doesn't mention Shieff; and four, the image looks quite sketchy and I'm 99% sure it is not the 'own work' of user Mikemichaelides. I'm not meaning to read between the lines of the uploader's intentions, and they may have had good intentions when uploading it, but when the image has the caption "Tim Shieff staring at the sun" I get the feeling that it is a disguised attempt to ridicule Shieff even though it's may not be, but any reader could take it the wrong way and would therefore not comply with Knowledge's terms of service. --
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You are wrong, the list of his "stupidest tweets" as you call them are documented evidence of the insane things that he believes. If you had met him in person as I have you would know that he speaks these all the time and hands out flat earth stickers cos he is totally mad. As we cannot document his
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In my opinion this page should not be deleted, because Timothy Shieff is a person of interest! He is a World Champion, was in an episodic show on MTV, is in a Harry Potter movie and his videos on YouTube have 8'000'000 views. So if you are still convinced that 8 million people's opinion and interest
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First of all, the article seems to lean toward what Shieff is saying on Twitter rather than a proper summary of who he is, as almost every sentence in the sections is followed by biased reporting of his beliefs in conspiracy theories; second, half of the references are said personal Twitter tweets
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In the London Real video Shieff says the earth is flat. In this video he never recants that claim, instead he says things like "Science has no problem explaining the Earth is a sphere". But he doesn't believe in science does he! He never once says that the earth is a sphere. Stop being his useful
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news. Yes, he does actually believe something totally bizarre in my opinion, but unless he comes forward in some form of publication (and he has, you just have to find the proper sources instead of posting something he said online once here), you can't use original research in what looks like an
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I picked one quote, about flat earth, checked it and found it was false. But even if we presume the other quotes are real and not taken out of context, does anyone know enough about Shieff to be able to say if chemtrails, secret malaria cures, the world being flat, and drinking urine is a fair
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15:22: "Nasa was the main topic of conversation when talking about this with Brian Rose on London Real episode, now, once again, forgive me, I want to apologies for my self-assuredness on the matter, I wanted to play devil's advocate and just have some
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Look in the page history, there is a TON of vandals with random IPs adding unsourced material and attacking anyone in the talk page for removing it or calling them out on it. I suspect that it will happen again when it's unprotected again too.
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You can't use his tweets as evidence on Knowledge though, as they aren't legitimate sources and don't belong here. The "documented evidence" you're talking about is purposely using his social medias against him in order to
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1:30: "I wanted to see how somebody in this day and age could possibly think such an insane idea ... Now, of course the world is round, and it's easy to prove, but I want to prove it to myself as an adult".
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I know he won American and UK Ninja warrior two or three times, that he's a vegan advocate, that he owns a company ("Ethics", not sure what it does), and I think he got famous for parkour or free running.
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2:20: "Why do I know this to be true? 1. Space, from space we can see the Earth from space, it's a sphere, it's round; 2. Science... ; 3. Geography... you could sail of the edge if the world was flat; 4.
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entire life we will just have to document the mad things he says which could well use up more of his time than athletics, which he hasn't done much of lately as he has been starving himself.
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A handful of IP addresses are currently editing this article to add quotes from Shieff about chemtrails, secret malaria cures, the world being flat, and him drinking urine.
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Various IP addresses are editing to say that Shieff claims the world is flat (and that he drinks wee, the IP addresses are very interested in wee). So here're excerpts of
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I mentioned this in an edit summary and in response the IP addresses added that he drinks distilled water and did a long water fast. Doesn't change much.
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I don't know the latest policy about legitimate sources (I'd expect tweets could be used in some circumstances, but I'd have to check
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But which does he do more of? Athletics and business/marketing? Or chemtrail outreach and discussing urine?
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newly added and existing articles, maybe nominate some good B-class articles for
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Yes he does say the earth is a sphere. I've quoted him (above) saying "
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Let's replace this article with a list of his stupidest tweets
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