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Well, to be more precise: the meaning is full, but the trust is not, obviously. Yet, the trust is there and is mentioned seriously; whether as an actual fact of the soul's life, or as a feeling performed for courtesy and for common sense rather than for its own inevitability, depends on the speaker.
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Kennedy Administration. So if it was also used by Vladimir Lenin the origins of the expression needs more work, and it is interesting that Reagan amd his followers used the expression without attributing its
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