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My father was assigned to the flight deck of the USS Hornet when a plane landed on the deck with a bomb that was not released rolled out of the bomb bay. The bomb exploded he and two men were blown into the second deck. One man died. One man lost his legs and father received a concussion. Because
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Their designed complement was approximately 268 officers and 2,362 enlisted men, but this was inadequate from the beginning; the addition of more light weapons and other equipment greatly increased the overcrowding so that Hornet's sister Intrepid had a crew of 382 officers and 3,003 enlisted men in
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I was reading the article on CV-12 while watching the episode of "JAG" that was filmed on her. The Knowledge (XXG) article credited the episode as being filmed in 1999, whereas it was actually done in 1997. The particular episode is titled "Ghost Ship," Season3, Episode 1, first aired on September
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was aboard for some time; seems like the hangar and flight decks were used, including a spectacular dive off the flight deck (by an ex navy Seal stuntman). They even had tanks aboard. So... does anyone know where we can find a source of info that can be referenced for this? I found something, but
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Somehow, someone has managed to comment (without signing, or adding a headline. How does that work, anyway?) that the overhead shot of the Hornet is actually a "supercarrier", appearently of the Nimitz Class. This person needs to take a closer look. See the number 12 on the flight deck? That is the
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So I went to the USS Hornet and learned a lot about it. In that experience, I learned that sometime after the typhoon there was a Japanese submarine squad sent to destroy the Hornet. The only reason that it survived was because of the crushed bow. This encouraged the submarine squad to think it
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I do too, but I was kind of burnt out while working through the images and external links and was wishing that Commons would stop expecting us to fix problems caused by their uploaders. Maybe some sort of equivalent of NPP? Well, a fellow can dream, n'est-ce
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I suppose the file you suggest, I was aware it was a training exercise but not aware that a photo from the mission existed. Since the mission has more encyclopedic value, makes sense to use that. I could go either way though so whatever your preference is.
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I did do a tour aboard the Hornet and the guide mentioned that a lot of the painted lines on the flight deck were not a part of the original paint scheme of the Hornet at any time during its Navy service. Instead, they were painted that way for the movie
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According to other online sources I have read on this USS Hornet, she was recommissioned in a formal ceremony on 17 October, 1998 where she was commissioned formally as a museum ship. YouTube as a video of CV-12's recommissioning ceremony.
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Respectfully, the article suggests Hornet support in the Battle off Samar Island. It may be that Hornet's planes attacked the center fleet at some previous or future date as that fleet was leaving, but not during the battle itself.
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I think that is only for quoting individuals, like Captain Seabridge said, "The sea is wet." I do not really care either way, but I am pretty sure you can take the quotation marks out. It will not hold up the review either way.
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Hornet's number. She was updated with an angular flight deck during a modernization overhaul in the 1950s, with the advent of jet aircraft. Also, the Nimitz Class are designated as CVN-68 through CVN-77. Not a 12 among them.
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Hmm okay. For the PD material I have seen quoted from NASA, I have never seen quotation marks used (since I suppose they are not required), but if this is something that you normally do and is accepted than it is fine.
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Not to worry, nothing here was really out of line for a thorough GA review, so we're good. Dunno if I ever want to take this past GA, but if I do, it will be pretty well prepared. Thanks for reviewing this so
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So really just the pp issue and we are good to go here I believe. Sorry if I was a bit too hard in the review, been doing FA reviews more lately so might have gone a tad overboard.
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was added in the External Links section of the article. That document contains neutral material that cannot be integrated into the Knowledge (XXG) article due to amount of detail.
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The American pilots claimed to have shot down 110 aircraft and destroyed 95 on the ground, although the First Air Fleet lost less than two dozen aircraft to all causes.
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Clark ordered that the damaged sisters steam backwards at 18 knots (33 km/h; 21 mph) and launch their aircraft on 7 June as they provided the CAP over the task group.
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That movie seems to have sunk without a trace and is often confused with a movie of the same title starring Chris Pine that came out a few years later.--
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I don't think it is actionable, but I like the machine-readable templates (like the Commons Information template). So you can ignore this if you please.
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So I was just on Hornet (again... did the flashlight tour, very cool) and one of the volunteers was talking about how the ship was used for filming
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Just making sure, the sources are saying that the Japanese numbers are correct and the American estimates are wrong and there is no OR right?
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Fixed by WL'ing "phantom". Normal usage for the aircraft is to use proper-noun, so the common-noun usage for these phantoms is another clue.--
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During the typhoon, the men were ordered below to their bunks. They took turns looking out a porthole and saw the flight deck pulled back.
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The previous sentence has the Japanese as the subject, which implies the Japanese gave the battle that nickname. I presume they did not.
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i should have seen that the common noun use indicated the former. nonetheless, i think the clarification was worthwhile. thanks.
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There is another ref in that quote, though it's a book and I don't have ready access to it to evaluate it further. Cheers -
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A Front Row Seat For History at Archive.today (archived 19 March 2006), NASAexplores, 15 July 2004. Retrieved 10 May 2008.
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of the hole in the flight deck planes had to land in the water next to the aircraft carrier and pilots did not survive.
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I knew there was a reason why I didn't want to tackle these. Some of them were archived when they didn't need to be.--
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OK, I think that I've covered all of these; see if my changes are satisfactory. Thanks for your thorough review.--
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You could probably get rid of the IMDB citation since the USS Hornet page covers it, I will leave it to you.
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I just need to review the last couple sections for prose, verify the sources, and we should be good to go.
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and little additional damage appears to have been done for the loss of one aircraft shot down by AA guns.
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the mention of 'phantom-themed shows' requires explanation. ghosts? mcdonnell-douglas f-4 phantoms? what?
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The first, of about 20 torpedo bombers, was shot down to an aircraft by fighters and anti-aircraft fire
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That's all for images. That was a lot to check! Still have to review the article for prose etc.
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was one of there own. I just wondered if you would like to include this in the article. --
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is in error on the deletion per the guidelines quoted above, and I believe the link to the
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It's needed to source the bit about the movie being about the ship and not just aboard it.
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How were they able to launch their aircraft? The previous paragraph said they could not.
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Apollo 11 Archived 18 September 2012 at the Wayback Machine, NASA (NSSDC ID: 1969-059A)
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to be a start class article in project california, it needs to have an introduction.
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For some reason this sentence is tripping me up; is there a better way to word it?
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That's not be substantiated in any of the histories of the ship that I've read.--
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Hornet was built with a single hydraulic catapult was fitted on the forward part
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Found some sources that state this Hornet was named in honor of Hornet (CV-8);
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I always type the name of the observatory, persistent bad habit. More later.--
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Is there anyway you can paraphrase a little more so the text matches less?
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Not without cause they did nickname the battle "The Marianas Turkey Shoot"
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to have shot down 26 Japanese aircraft and to destroyed 29 on the ground
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legacy that I never looked at. At any rate, redundant and deleted.--
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was not certain that the Americans were not merely attacking
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Umm the last word of the previous sentence is "Americans"--
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