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just a basic table of different patch designs, with particular specialised patches (WWII Commando and
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Introduced in early 1915 by a divisional commander of the A.I.F. as a simple but secure means of identification for units of his own formation, the system had by 1918 spread throughout a force which had expanded to comprise almost seven divisions, with additional corps, army, and L of C units, and
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Completely agree and fully encourage. I've also boldly updated the title to reflect what this article is about.
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