Talk:Urban agriculture

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long specifically in the "resource and economic" and "environmental" perspectives sections. These quotes seem to violate Knowledge's plagiarism rules since I believe they could easily be explained in one's own words and do not need to be added. I have also seen a mixture of block quotes and non-block quotes with seemingly no reason as to why they are each way. I am unsure if the same rules that apply to essays for block quotes are supposed to apply to these articles (generally longer than 4 lines) or if it is on a basis of importance. I have a feeling the first would apply, which would cause need for some changes to be made so that these rules are followed and that the article is more cohesive. In regards to actual content, there is a paragraph at the end of the history section that is entirely an opinion and takes a very firm stance of the issue and should be taken out entirely. I think that those thoughts can be used in the perspective section or benefits, since those are showing different opinions on the matter, but no opinion should be in the history section. I also believe that the organization of the article should be altered a bit. It seems like it would be beneficial to have the benefits and trade-offs sections before the implementation, especially considering the length of the implementation section.

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done for the purposes of providing more information - isn't that the purpose of wikipedia?). Second, the links page is not that long and if somebody wants to skip that section, all they need to do is click the pertinent sections they are interested in from the Contents box. Third, if these links are deleted, it feels like certain wiki editors are trying to squelch the very idea of urban agriculture. This is a growing movement around the globe, and rather than suppress this information, we need to provide examples of where it is happening. Those are my reasons why I believe that all of the links now included under in hidden comments should revert back to the External links section.

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depending on the locale. For some cities (such as NYC), many urban agriculturalists are taking on projects independently and actually making money off the endeavor. Other examples of urban agriculture include community gardens that are run by volunteers. In my mind this section is irrelevant, and if the prison projects are that important or interesting, they should be included under either examples or in the external links.

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the end of a massive article, is carrying way to much weight. The content of the article isn't terrible and I'm not saying the positive stuff should be deleted, but both benefits and drawbacks should be covered early on before delving into excessive detail, and we need more detailed discussion of the drawbacks that have only bullet pointed in the current article.

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It is important to this page that we include more countries' general projects on the page because urban agriculture is expanding aroung the world. I am going to start choosing random countries and researching the general development of urban agriculture and include a couple major projects within that

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Just browsing and o.m.g. what has happened here? The intro is a fuzzy mess and fails to reflect the full article, and the full article has edits going back years that are inaccurate, garbled, possibly sneaky vandalism. Many articles improve over time, but some go to rot and ruin, including this one.

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I reverted out the wholesale removal of the recommended reading and external links sections. As I indicated in the edit summary I do not think the removal was vandalism per se but perhaps just poor judgment. If there is "not much of interest" in these references let's work together to improve them,

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I'm not totally sure that the stat is correct. I think if it is true though, I think they mean imported/exported from state to state; the US international trade is part of the 95% but not the whole of it. For instance most oranges eaten in Colorado have travelled over 1500 miles from either CA or FL,

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I have tagged a section as disputed, since it seems to be suggesting that plants being grown to remove toxic material from the soil are also able to be used for food (which the presence of it in this article suggests). If the plants can remove toxins from the soil, those toxins have to go somewhere.

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While photo you deleted does not fit 'History' - agree - I've reinserted it into 'Implementation'. Photo is minimally promotional, and one of very few that is not USA or Europe. For 'History' I found a 95 year old photo in NYC that is adequate for now, though to make it "fit" I rephrased a sentence.

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I looked for a suitable replacement for the removed borderline-promotional image, but no luck. Anyone has a good idea for an image that illustrates the wider historical perspective of this topic? Ideally it should directly relate to one of the aspects discussed in the section - a historical image or

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practice there is no common definition of urban field. In this context generally, urban field is synonymous with urban agriculture and of which neither are differentiated by ownership, use, or purpose. Take what you see with a grain of salt. There are a lot of pop culture ideas, movements, suggested

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I am confused how phytoremdiation by urban agriculture is a benefit, as phytoextraction of heavy metals means that the plants uptake them, and thus the plants will have elevated levels of these toxins which they will pass on to consumers. This is the exact opposite of what one wants in agriculture.

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I don't have a particular axe to grind here, but the contents box makes this article's coverage look a lot more balanced than it is. The sections called "Perspectives" and "Impact" might as well be merged with the one called "Benefits," as that's all they cover. The "Trade-offs" section, demoted to

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Regarding sources, I tested a few (probably up until #50 or so) and many did not work which is not helpful when people use this as a source to find other information. Some of the source links that did not work are 2, 4, 8, 9, 11, 17, 24, 26, 30, 43, and 50. There are a few quotes that are a bit too

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I think the links should remain in the article for a number of reasons. First, for students or activists who may want to start an organic farm, it is nice to go to Knowledge and have the links referenced there. It saves hours of searching for this information (that somebody has already graciously

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Where does the 95%/95% statistic come from under 'Energy Efficiency'? There is no reference, and that scenario is not even theoretically possible if we wish to maintain our low food prices. While it is true that it costs less to transport food produced near the consumption center, those costs are

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This article is mainly about outdoor growing in an urban environment. However, the indoor growing method isn't mentioned much here, despite that it is actually a more effective (and perhaps even more cost-effective?) method to grow crops in an urban environment, since plants can be stacked up, and

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Another complaint: what are we counting as agriculture for the purposes of this article? As I understand it that requires a focus on large-scale cultivation of staples. Small scale cultivation of various non-staple vegetables is just gardening, and (sub)urban gardening does not seem to be notably

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So, we have an article which has contained no references to support it for more than ten years. We can argue about what "urban field" means because nobody really has a clue. It can mean one thing to one person and one thing to another, as has been pointed out above. One thing's for sure, it's got

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foodsecurity.org is no longer a community food site. It has been taken over by a spammer using it to sell Garcinia Cambogia, which has nothing to do with this wikipedia page. They are currently reference #13^ "Community Food Coalition". Foodsecurity.org. I am removing that link, and explaining

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I agree with KP here and I am supporting her removal of the entire section. For clarity, I've commented them out instead of deleted them, so they can be available more easily for editing: some of them are referred to in the text, and they should be properly referenced there. But that needs to be

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I think that this entire section should just be removed. I don't see other industries discussing their labor force, so why should the concept of urban agriculture devote such a large section to this topic? I don't understand its relevance. The concept of urban agriculture will necessarily vary

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Also, a non-profit program where inmates voluntarily engage in an occupacional/restaurative/reintegration project is one thing. Stablishing a urban agriculture program that would rely on the work force of inmates (or former ones) is a whole different discussion, and the risk of forced labor would

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A group of graduate students from The Newschool University are working on updating the references and balancing the article. We will take down the reference tag once done, The neutrality seems to stem from the "forced labor" and sustained labor force of urban agriculture? Not sure if it is still

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attempt by a publisher who has been nicely asked a number of times to first discuss the additions and interlinking on the articles' talk pages, and as such should be discouraged. You might also want to discuss why these ones should be on the page over other possibilities, and what use it is of

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Another aspect is the risk of stygmatization. Wouldn't relying mainly on former inmate labor for a city-wide agriculture program create the myth that working in urban agriculture is for ex-cons? The current text could raise questions like this, and it looks as though the wiki itself promotes the

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Hi all, apologies for the commentless edit. Short description which was only appearing on the mobile app had the short description as "Consumption of Feces," presumably vandalism. I changed it to "Production of food in an Urban setting," which could probably be better phrased if anyone has the

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After reading this article and seeing the urban agriculture article - I have to say that I am rather surprised about this merge proposal. To my view the topics mainly share the word "urban" in the title and I cannot see other overlap that warrants merger. I also do not see why this would be a

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Since agriculture in peri-urban regions tends to have unique characteristics from urban agriculture, I added an article about it and am inserting a link to that page by adding to a sentence in the first paragraph in this article. Happy to receive feedback on this move and the content of the

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Hello everyone! My name is Antonino and I'm running an informative/educational blog mainly focussed on Green Roofs, Rooftop Gardens, Urban Farming and more. I wish to ask you to consider whether a link to my blog should be inserted in this cathegory of Urban agricolture. My site is at

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subsection of urban agriculture as for Urban fields it purely recreational use (ie non agricultural) is part of the definition, while urban agriculture includes "non field" production systems (e.g. mushroom cultivation in the basement of an abandoned swimming pool).

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Your understanding is incorrect. Agriculture is, definitionally, the farming of domesticated species; it follows that urban agriculture is the farming of domesticated species in an urban environment, and nothing more. Don't overcomplicate things.

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readers of the article to have such a large external links section--you may decide it is appropriate, but please don't do so in the vacuum of just the links provided by a spammer who has been politely asked not to do this already.

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Suggestions that the plants can convert arsenic, mercury and uranium to harmless forms are utterly ridiculous, as all these elements are quite toxic, and their compounds do not usually decrease the danger that these pose (often,

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AFTER 6 MONTHS (September 2008): The semi-desert towns of Persia were oases fed through aqueducts that carried mountain water to support intensive food production. In addition, community wastes were used to feed this urban

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Don't really see what is wrong with this. Perhaps the penultimate bullet with reference to subsidized industrial agriculture, but otherwise it is a sensible list of difficulties, to which could be added "praedial larceny"

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ORIGINAL (a list - March 2008): Semi-Desert towns of Persia — Oases were fed through aqueducts that carried mountain water to support intensive food production based on wastes from the communities themselves.

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and most of the oranges grown in FL and CA are exported to different states/regions of the nations. So I think it means 95% of food is not from the vicinity in which it is being eaten/where it was grown.

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You do have a point - although organic toxins might be metabolised by plants this is obviously not the case for heavy metals. This should be carefully considered by someone who knows more of it then me.

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made little sense and the paragraph is artless. Looking at the history (of History) and - Ahha! - yes, the edits are a mix of poor editing, vandalism, and inertia.

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most often passed back to the producer, not to the consumer. Please either provide clear and scientifically valid references or do not include this information.

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I agree that there could be more content on indoor growing, but we need independent refs covering the various products / methods. We already have articles on

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Uncle g, the two links you have just added arent external links. They are references and should be used to support the article somewhere appropriate.

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from the scant sources I've managed to find which barely makes the term even notable (Urban field = Urban area). In my view, this article is

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Urban agriculture is a more comprehensive article on the same subject. "City farm" is not a notable or distinct category within urban ag.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20070927195253/http://www.ruaf.org/system/files?file=Periurban%20Agriculture%20Development%20in%20China.pdf

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In fact, it is surprising that there is no mention anywhere of the downsides of agriculture in higher pollution areas such as cities.

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has been a pretty popular example of a company pioneering this, and lately, there are other companies following their footsteps (i.e.

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which run successful rooftop greenhouses, and these could be given more coverage here. As greenhouses, these both use natural light.

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Houses with gardens, as well as, chickens and cows, were commonplace in urban areas of colonial America and in Europe, ignoramuses.

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Nice find, thank you. No problems with having the previous image in a different context (I have toned down the PR speak though).

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thought out too--the use of these specific examples given seems intrinsically spammy, and over emphasis on particular projects.

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in general), or the reason why food from plants grown to remove toxic waste from soil would not be itself toxic.

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article is not based on any sources and is an opinion/perspective/idea on what 'urban field' means. Rather in

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This article needs some consistent editing to chip away at these and more problems. I'll see what I can do.

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in practice do not reference urban fields except where they relate to agriculture, or, at times drainage.

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Vijoen, Andre, et al. 2005, Continous Productive Urban Landscapes. Architectural Press, Burlington MA 2005

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can even grow quicker than outdoors (well, depending on the crop grown, so not always).

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The following links might help contribute to the facts of urban farming.

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