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Svend Hendriksen (Danish) argues- in a self-portrait with palette and brush, van Gogh is holding his brush with left and palette with right. His jacket is buttoned left over right, consistent with the style of that time, and therefore the portrait is not a mirror image, and shows that van Gogh was
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Perhaps I'm getting confused, but when I look in a mirror, my left ear is on the left side of the reflection in the mirror – no? Are we saying a "mirror-image painting" is like rotating the image 180° horizontally – not just the artist looking in a mirror and painting the image he sees?
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Since the pipe is on the left of his mouth, that would indicate that the portrait is a mirror image, and it was his left ear. Or, if he holds the pipe in his dominant hand, it's his right ear, right now.
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As two of the paintings show jackets buttoned up on different sides, it suggests that one of the paintings is a mirror image, assuming that all van Gogh's jackets buttoned the same way. Yes, def OR!
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territory here: the sources are confused and unclear and I haven't seen any that can be regarded as a "definitive" and unquestionable work which can help us with an answer... -
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show the same thing: the ear to the right-hand side of the image is undamaged, while the 'bandaged ear' selfie shows the ear to the left-hand side being the damaged one. -
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My mistake - it was the left, but either way, the paintings are all telling the same story - they were all mirror-image portraits. The two "final" self-portraits (this and
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Given the artist's fame and potential to fascinate the public, you'd think some 'experts' would long since have researched this question and reached a definite conclusion.
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left-handed. So, how does a pipe smoker stoke their pipe? Do they hold it in their subservient hand and fill and light it with their dominant hand?
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Yeah, but Gauguin's right handed- that means it was Vincent's left ear he slashed off with his sabre (unless Vincent was running away).
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Here he seems to be holding palette with his left hand, which implies he painted with his right & was right-handed – ??
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What topic you guys found. Could it be that the picture is reversed? Was he left or right handed, by the way.
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I think the answer lies in which side his jackets buttoned up (assuming consistentcy)
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I think it's fair to say that the source are as confused as anyone else...
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By that logic he painted his right ear as the bandaged one... -
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All other claims are false. But funny what is discussed here.
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Never been an Irving Stone fan, but maybe I'll have to read
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Oh, just noticed the jacket, buttoned right over left.
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say, "That evening, van Gogh severed his left ear...."?
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Vang Gogh was left-handed. The left ear was missing.
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