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Who was an Angel and who was not has been discussed at length on this page. It is pretty clear that ref 178 is bogus as they list
Veronica Webb who left VS before the Angel concept was even created. It is also a different list than 179 so one has to be false. Cara Delevingne, Lily Donaldson, Jourdan
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Further clarification is needed as to the source that is considered unusable. Are you referring to
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Until the early 1990s, Victoria's Secret implied it was a
British company - not just because of the British-sounding name, but its mail-order catalogs had a phony London return address listed on them and all its TV commercials were voiced by women with posh RP accents. It was a form of
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Dear VSfan88, while it has been reported by several sites that she may be an Angel, so have plenty of models, such as
Monikangana Dutta, Emanuela De Paula, Toni Garnn and many many more. However non of them have been listed on VS All Access's Supermodel page where
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Victoria's Secret has finally updated the supermodel-list on its website vsallaccess.com and to my very big surprise Elsa Hosk is not included. Even though a lot of actually reliable sources stated she's become an Angel in 2014, she's not an Angel for the
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