Talk:Visayans - Knowledge

2598:(correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I can not find any mention of him elsewhere). He is not neutral as well, given the article is part of a religious publication and his main hypothesis seems to be on the existence of a pre-colonial Christian population in the Philippines. I do not agree with his oversimplified categorization, given that there are several Visayan ethnic groups, not two. I am removing mention of him again. The article needs to be rewritten with regards for the "categorizations". More accurate subdivisions should be based on actual ethnic groups. Sugbuanons, Hiligaynon, Karay-a, Waray, Bol-anon, Surigaonon, Butuanon, etc. are all different 2534:(I’m not planning on uploading or disseminating it lest I get sued, probably going to delete it afterwards as it has no use for me). Seems like he indeed made the categorization and terminology drawing from the cultures, languages and recorded history, which is appreciated. It annoys me to no end that even some reputable works describe the Visayans as a single ethnolinguistic group, despite the obvious differences. While he seemed to err in the Sri-Vijayan connection (I don’t blame him, really), I think it’s better retain the categorizations part, as others seem to perpetuate another error. 557: 536: 3312: 2900:

the coasts of both islands are settled largely by two groups: the Cebuano-speakers and the Aklanon/Hiligaynon-speakers, whom the Spanish would, of course, have greatest contact with. But not everywhere else in Visayan regions. Remember that later on, as the Spanish actually started sending missionaries to different parts of the Visayas and Mindanao, they recorded other ethnic groups clearly different from those two, which resulted in them producing the different

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here back in the mid or late 2000's. And yes, Baumgartner's (1975) paper alone in fact provides enough compelling arguments that the word Bisaya has not yet been reconstructed, and that the ethnogenesis of Filipino Visayans is still largely just wild theories. Thanks a lot for this comprehensive discussion. Hope people would bother reading the talk page and this does deter anyone else trying to bring in fresh quack history onto the article.

2472:. The Sri Vijayan accounts can be mentioned, but it should NOT be presented as if it's the mainstream accepted hypothesis because it's not. It's authenticity rests on very very shaky ground. As a Visayan, it's a bit insulting (not to mention a bit pathetic) how some people want us to be something other than we are. As if to be "noble" we have to be Malays or Javanese, both alien cultures, while disregarding our own cultural uniqueness. 235: 21: 347: 2208: 326: 2349:) were in some way responsible for the spread of Islam, hence why they are associated with the Sulu cultures. Sri Vijaya is Buddhist, Majapahit is Hindu. One existed centuries before the other. Majapahit only converted to Islam more or less around the same time Europeans started to arrive, around the 15th to 16th centuries. Islam arrived in the Philippines through trade relations, not through hegemonic influence. See: 1160: 4011: 2321: 2553:@TigSulath, Didn't realize the link of Church of FarEast was taken down, 'til you mentioned it. Anyway, I can verify the work, 'cause I was the one who added the link a while back. As per, Obsidian Soul, the srivijayan parts shall be exclude. Also as per TigSulath, J.K. Pangan's categorization should be retain, I guess. Thanks to @Obsidian Soul for bringing the srivijayan issue to Talk Page. 733:...is dubious. I speak Bisaya (Cebuano). I can't recall anyone calling our native tonque as Binisaya. It's simply Bisaya (accent to the last syllable). 2) Maybe it means "the way of the Bisaya" but to my ears and to my co-Bisaya acquantances it sounds more like a made-up language (in the past tense) literally "being Bisayaned". Something like Tagalog becoming "Tinagalog". 295: 2235:" is for one, nonsensical since the name "Bisaya" originally only applied to the people of Panay, it was the Spanish who extended the term to the entire Visayas islands. And two, are long outdated, most of those theories are from the 50s to 60s, enthusiastically repeated in school textbooks, by people who still believe that all Southeast Asians are " 3483:. I have left out all citations which only had a quote from older sources, all non-English language sources, and all instances where the search term did not refer to the ethnic group (e.g. "Bisaya" for the languages). Being lazy, I have only gone back to 2014, so the count still might be within the range of variance, and not yet representative. 2639:@Obsidian Soul. You brought some good points. I wont dispute them. Though I'm a bit disturbed by your implication that a work (scholarly or not) being published in a religious publication is considered not neutral. Also, if by your standards the categorization is an oversimplification, why not delete the entire Sugbu/Madja-as Visayan category? 1999: 1986: 1973: 1960: 1934: 1947: 1586: 417: 3455:

case), the Philippine Bisaya would be the primary topic. But good you point it out now, I'll add a hatnote anyway. And the paper by Colla in Cao (2009) is the best source you have provided so far. In the coming days, I will do a listing of sources for the benefit of other editors not entirely familiar with the topic. –

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ethnic group needs to be highlighted. This content includes the text contained in the sections Federal State of the Visayas, American colonization, Modern age, Present-day (population) etc. This information does not seem to be specific to Visayans as an ethnic group – it is about the Visayas, the geographic entity.

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assume) draws the distinction with the shared culture of Panay and Western Negros with that of Cebu, Bohol, Leyte and parts of Samar (hence, his categorization). A distinction that was lost or overlapped the following centuries during colonization, and still persists today. Some describes the entire Visayas as

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there is a potential ambiguity between "Visayans" = 1) inhabitants from the "Visayas" and 2) collective ethnic group that includes people who refer to themselves as "Visayan/Bisaya". So I am basically sympathetic to the proposed move, since it could actually resolve the ambiguity. The major obstacle is

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there are sub-cultures and dialects that differ in some regions (Sugbuanons has a different sub-culture like the Leyteños, Boholanos, and Negrenes), but they grew from the same tree, so to speak. I concede that there are obviously small tribes that may or may not be related with the major ethnic groups.

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You mentioned that Hiligaynon, et al. aren’t much different from the languages of the Pintados. Well, let me tell you as a Cebuanophone for my entire life, I would have an unintelligible discussion with a Hiligaynon-speaker, if not for my later studies made. Are there similarities? Sure. The same can

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Spanish observations of the natives, not on actual differentiation between natives. Chirino was one of the earliest missionaries to the Visayas, back when the Spanish still knew very little of the islands and the natives. The Sugbuanon/Madja-as categorization probably only works for Panay and Negros,

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hypothesis which claims a pre-colonial Christian population in the Philippines. So his views on pre-colonial history would therefore be colored by that bias. As for the categorization. I don't have the time to create a replacement for it at the moment. Madja-as and the Rajahnate of Cebu both existed,

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Hello! Hope you could help by putting some pictures. These might look good on the article: 1. Geopolitical Map of the Visayas 2. Linguistic Map of Binisaya-speaking areas 3. The baptism of Rajah Humabon (that painting in Sto. Nino Church) 4. The Sto. Nino 5. Pedro Calungsod 6. Graciano Lopez-Jaena 7.

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Thanks for doing this. This nonsense has been oft-repeated in other related pages and being passed on as facts. I will remove and edit them systemically when I have more time but I will link to this particular section of your talk page to the respective talk pages of the articles as you conveniently

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Native Cebuano speaker as well. And I have zero problems talking with Hiligaynon, or even Waray, aside from a few differences in vocabulary. They are still closely related to Cebuano. The same can't be said for languages like Karay-a or Aklanon, which presumably are also included with the "Madja-as"

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Lastly, despite Chirino's observations, the languages of the "Madja-as" (presumably Hiligaynon, Capiznon, Karay-a, Aklanon, etc.) aren't really that much different from the languages of the "Pintados" (presumably Cebuano, Boholano, eastern Negros, Siquijor, etc.). They are all mutually intelligible,

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Thanks for contributing here @TigSulath. I think it's better to make another category if we decide to revamp the categorizations. I mean for me, I'm okay either way. Though I find no problem with the present categorization or deleting it. Since @Obsidian Soul, @TigSulath and myself doesn't seem to

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I think the categorization seems justifiable for me. For example, Pangan draws his categorization of Sugbu Visayans from the fact that the island of Cebu, Bohol, eastern part of Negros, Samar and Leyte belonged to an ethnic group called by the Spaniards as Pintados. He coined the term Sugbu Visayans

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References are a major problem in this article. Many of the sources are dead links, accessible only through archived URLs. Also, most of the sources are offline, so I'm unable to verify them. It'd be nice to have Google Books / other online links. At least some of these sources are available online.

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What does it exactly mean? (For clarity, I'll use the distinction of Bisaya the ethnicity and Binisaya the language) I'm sure it's the other way around. I know that we Bisaya acknowledge and embrace anyone who speak Binisaya natively anywhere in the country as Bisaya; so that on the contrary, one is

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The question is admittedly not as simple as in the case of "Bisayan" (which is a scholarly coinage). Yes, "Visayan" can be used as a geographic demonym, while it is often also used to refer to all people who consider themselves "Bisayà", which would also include many people of northern Mindanao. So

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which is just... insane. Ashoka reigned more or less a thousand years before Sri Vijaya. It's as if the writer just somehow can't accept the concept that we have our own indigenous cultures. I just can't spare the time to sift through all the sources and decide which parts can be salvaged and which

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Indeed, the origin of the word “Bisaya” is a murky one in scholarship. Perhaps we should refrain posting about it until the academic circle makes a decision on it, as proposed by Obsidian. Also, I managed to download Pangan’s preview pdf (Church of the Far-East) a while back (I forgot it was stored

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Hi! May I ask where you learned Cebuano? There are many variants, some of which may not have the "in" infix. Other usages of this infix in the "way" sense are: Binata (chidish), Binayot (in a gay manner), Binoang (foolish), Ininsik (in a Chinese way or the Chinese language). The past tense sense of

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Visayans are therefore composed of two major groups. Leyteño, Bol-anon, Surigaonon, Kagay-anon, Butuanon, Romblombanon, Cuyonon, Masbateño, etc. are not "small tribes". Nor were they under the hegemony of Sugbu. The most obvious examples of this are Surigaonon and Tausug which emphatically are not

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Totally concur. I did not have the time rectify (or challenge) this while I was more active polishing other parts of the article. Only reworded some statements to make it sound as mere folk speculation, and the origins remain empirically inconclusive up to this day. I believe that claim was put on

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Since there is a Visayan language family, the languages that the Bisaya now speak must have once been just one single language, hence, my belief that the Bisaya were and are one people who, because of the geographic nature of the places they settled in, ended up not understanding each other, i.e.,

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No, the difference isn’t superficial as both the language and practices are the same. Even the datus and rajahs like that of Mactan are related to Rajah Humabon, the king of Cebu. You say it’s not an actual differentiation and that’s true, but a differentiation was indeed observed. And of course,

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for goodness sakes. And also this article talks about Visayans citizens living in the Philippines! Why does people have to add Visayan populations in other countries??? such as Malaysia or the United States. What's that got to do with the Visayans. Visayans are from the Philippines, not Malaysia.

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I'm confused. Did the Bisaya arrive in the Philippines as one people who eventually fractured into the different linguistic groups that they are today, or are they really separate ethnic groups who came to form their Bisaya identity based on geography (that is, they became the Bisaya because they

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The main problem with this article is sourcing. As noted above, some of the references do not support the assertions made in the article (e.g. the ref about religion only talks about Central Visayas, not Visayans in general). A lot of the content in the article is unsourced or improperly sourced

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It is not clear from the article if the Visayans are the only ethnic group inhabiting these islands (I believe this is not the case, considering that the article says "not all speakers identify themselves as ethnically Visayan"). If not, the relevance of some of the content to the Visayans as an

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out of the discussion as a "proof" for English usage, as they have nothing to do with the Philippine Visayans/Bisaya except for the accidentally (?) shared designation. But yes, in case you can back up your claim that "Bisaya" is the better common English name for the Visayans (and only in that

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Chirino also notices the distinction of the people from Western Negros and Panay—that they spoke a different language and did not practice tattooing like the Pintados. Some Spaniards called those from Panay and Western Negros as Bisaya, obviously distinct from the Pintados. From this, Pangan (I

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as what you see about yourself, but rather destroying what Knowledge is actually trying to let us do. I'm retaining a single data on Visayan population because there are no credible unified sources for overseas Visayan expatriates but NOT for other poorly-thought reasons such as "lack of common

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There is no indication by Sri Vijayan histories that they ever conquered the Philippines, even in their greatest extent. We likely had trade relations with them. But not as vassals. There are no great monuments or inscriptions or any other archeological indication that they ever reached the

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Tattooing or lack of it isn't an indication that the groups are the same or different either. For all we know, Visayans had different tattoo patterns indicating ethnic affiliations that the Spanish didn't record. Plus it was a caste thing, only nobility and warriors had tattoos, commoners

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Um... who again? Sourced to "Church of the Far East", which as far as I know does not exist. Neither is there any indication that J.K. Pangan is notable or reliable since "artist and author" does not mean historian or academic. There is no indication of a body of published

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The cultural affinities of these people are mentioned by Pedro Chirino, a crew of Legazpi named Rodriguez, and Pigafetta described the people of parts of Leyte, Samar and Cebu as tattooed. Pigafetta also recorded their language which is basically the Cebuano language.

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Needs info on current culture, current religion, perhaps a bit of political info, etc. Basically, things about life among the Bisaya. There are a couple sentences in various sections (such as "Post-Philippine Independence"), but more info in separate sections would be

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M. Diez-Aguado, “El verdadero pilar de Filipinas,” in Archivo Historico Hispano-Agustiniano, vol. XVI (El Escorial, 1921), 5-6. Cf. Isacio R. Rodriguez, “Bibliography on Legazpi and Urdaneta,” Philippine Studies 13, n. 2 (1965), pp. 302). Also cited in Pangan's

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P.S. Note that I do not feel as strongly about Pangan, as I do about the Sri Vijayan pseudohistories. If you guys think he's acceptable as a source, I also wouldn't object further. Although my opinions are as above, in that the two categories is a gross

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Reply: There is to many related ethnic groups in the information box section. I removed all the nonsense on this article and added more clarifications. Visayans are related to the Filipino people and Austronesian race, o.k. Have some

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does not support the content it is cited for. It calls the Sulundon the only indigenous group of Western Visayas. It does not state that they are the only ones who maintain pre-Hispanic Visayan culture and beliefs among all the

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Think of it like an explorer landing in the Belgium, discovering the differences between the Dutch and French-speaking populations. And then concluding that all Europeans must be either of the Dutch-type or the French-type.

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speaking different languages. I guess sort of the same could be said about the Bicolanos, except that they have now developed a standard Bikol language so they could communicate with each other like in the olden days.

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Philippines, aside from incidental trade goods. This is in stark contrast to true Sri Vijayan territories where there is a profusion of Buddhist artifacts and buildings, not to mention their settlement by actual

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The relationship between modern Visayans and others (Austronesians / Hindus / Buddhist / Arabs) is not clear. Did these people contribute to the Visayan ethnic gene pool? Or was their role limited to cultural

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The Visayan languages are in a completely separate branch from the Sunda-Sulawesi languages. If we were Sri Vijayans, you'd expect us to speak their languages. We don't. We speak a more ancient branch of the

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Antonio Pigafetta, “First Voyage Around the World,” in The Philippine Islands 1493-1803, vol. 33, eds. Emma Helen Blair and James A. Robertson (Cleveland: The Arthur H. Clark Company, 1906), pp. 18, 194-195.

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Bisaya however is an ethnic rather than a linguistic identity. One is not a Bisaya because the language one speaks is Binisiya. It is the other way around; the language one speaks is Binisaya because one is

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The Bisaya all refer to their respective languages as Binisaya. Binisaya literally means "the way of the Bisaya" and is used to refer to bisaya-style cooking and indigenous herbal medicine, aside from the

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either. That's not even mentioning the sources that do not verify any of the things written, and just seem to be attached randomly to the sentences, something also mentioned by the GA reviewer in 2016.

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The reference cited for religion stats is only for Central Visayas, and does not support the numbers presented in the infobox. Also, people belonging to other ethnic groups probably live in this region.

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The point being that the Spaniards first settled primarily in these areas and thus were exposed to what seemed to be two major groups. But again, that isn't exactly a good basis for then saying that

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be said with Tagalog compared to Cebuano, but the non-Cebuano speaker will have little to no success understanding a Cebuano in a conversation. The same can be said with Hiligaynon.

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mind to delete the section, then, for the meantime, we will exclude Pangan's categorizations part, unless you guys change your minds or find new perspective/arguments/sources.

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since the Cebuano language spread from Cebu to the mentioned islands thereby establishing the Cebuano dialects and Pangan cites John U. Wolf, a linguistics scholar for that.

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and the Bisaya of Panay may be related (although linguistic evidence for that is unlikely). But that's it. Any other interpretation is claiming something that isn't there.

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are oral epics. They should not be treated as if they are historical accounts. None of them mention Sri Vijaya. Instead they mention Borneo, which gives credence that the

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I haven't encountered an answer to that question. And I don't know if that could be answered. What people agree on is that the Visayans are linguistically related. --

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article is more complicated though. I despair just looking at it and knowing all our articles on pre-colonial Philippines are probably in a similar state. So much

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the Philippines, the term "Visayan" is far more universal when referring to both the people and the languages they speak. "Bisaya" has more limited usage to

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Until the confusion turned people of all the Visayas into one ethnolinguistic group. That is why (as I mentioned before) I appreciate the categorization.

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that is currently placed at the top of Ethnic groups articles' talk pages. Quality assessment guidelines are at the Knowledge:Version 1.0 Editorial Team's

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Note that Bulloch (2016) uses both, but explicitly labels "Visayan" as the English them. Based on this initial count, I stick to my "Mild oppose"-votum. –

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Now until those can be addressed, I will remove all text claiming we are Sri Vijayans. I may expand this myself later on. But I'm too busy rewriting the

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I have entered the search terms "Bisaya" and "Visayans" in JSTOR, sorted by "newest", and opened every citation to verify whether it is relevant for

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https://web.archive.org/20120626015825/http://opinion.inquirer.net:80/inquireropinion/columns/view/20090107-181837/Eartha-Kitts-Philippine-connection

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Newson, L. (2015). The Longue Durée in Filipino Demographic History: The Role of Fertility Prior to 1800. In Henley D. & Nordholt H. (Eds.),

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The Philippine Islands, 1493-1803, vol. 12, eds. Emma Helen Blair and James Alexander Robertson (Cleveland: The Arthur H. Clark Company), pp. 72.

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Bisaya because he/she can speak Binisaya. The language one speaks is Binisaya no matter where you are either in the Visayas or in Mindanao. Thus

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With all those being said, if we decide that Pangan or his work is unreliable, it would be fair to just delete the categorizations entirely as

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https://web.archive.org/20121023141130/http://www.philippinetourism.us/tourism/featured-destinations-tourism/featured-destination-tourism-2/

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A "standard Bikol language" was not intentionally created. There was no newly-developed language that consolidates all Bikol dialects and

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the infix "in" is from Tagalog, I think. E.g., kinuha (kuha), kinain (kain), kinulong (kulong), kinidnap (kidnap), giniling (giling)...--

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summary to explain your ratings and/or identify the strengths and weaknesses. To add the summary, please edit this article's

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I don't think the issue of "common sense" is contestable here as what you are accusing. Look at other ethnic groups such as

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RUSSO, A. (2014). An artistic humanity: New positions on art and freedom in the context of Iberian expansion, 1500–1600.

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used. That's just the technical name of the linguistic subgrouping, similar to how no one in the Philippines ever says "

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G. Nye Steiger, H. Otley Beyer, Conrado Benitez, A History of the Orient, Oxford: 1929, Ginn and Company, pp. 122-123.

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Speaking of religions. First-hand accounts by the Spanish all clearly indicate that Visayans were animists worshiping

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HAWKLEY, E. (2014). Reviving the Reconquista in Southeast Asia: Moros and the Making of the Philippines, 1565-1662.

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in my hard disk) that was linked and referenced here from archives.org before it got taken down. See a screenshot

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Ouano-Savellon, R. (2014). "Aginid Bayok Sa Atong Tawarik": Archaic Cebuano and Historicity in a Folk Narrative.

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Letaba, L. (2014). An Aesthetics Survey of Contemporary Musical Theater in Cebu and Bohol (1980-2009): A Report.

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There are so many sections that could be added, however, that I opted for the latter. The article is 90% history.

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I suggest you need a upgrade for your website 🙂 You need to add a voice clip with the words you are typing in.

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Visayan languages like all Philippine languages, are completely different from the Sunda-Sulawesi languages.

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category since they are native Panay languages. Both are very different from Cebuano or Hiligaynon.

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BULLOCH, H. (2016). Fetal Personhood in the Christian Philippines The View from a Visayan Island.

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listed all the reasons why these statements should not belong on those pages. Much appreciated.

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hence the Visayan categorization in the first place. Hiligaynon and Capiznon themselves are

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so they're a good start. Although once again, the same problem manifests in the article on

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of Sulu and mainland Mindanao) are possibly Bornean (specifically Sabahan) in origin.

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Borrinaga, G. (2015). Seven Churches: The Pulahan Movement in Leyte, 1902-1907.

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with a more complex grammar that are all related to each other. Even the

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it's very simple, why doesn't people ever used it. It's very simple.

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originated from one mother identity (proto-Visayan). He mentioned

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how these languages are more like a dialect continuum. He also

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so the geographic demonym "Visayan" isn't that appropriate.

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