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I would also suggest that the type field be moved immediately underneath the other names field, from its current location at nearly the bottom of the infobox. In most cases, the software type is a two- or three-word summary of what the piece of software is used for, which is most useful for someone
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I'm working on an article for a software project that has several major contributors that I want to list in the infobox, and not all of them are developers. In this case, one of them is a project manager. This infobox only provides the option to indicate "author" or "developer", which both link to
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Just a little note: I haven't really fixed the module, I am still going to improve the error message. What I did is that I let Cite Web report the most trivial and common error. It is quite probable you will encounter the old error message when there are less trivial errors in a reference. In that
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Plural paramaters are fine on a technical level but a huge pain to maintain. If there is an overwhelming consensus, we can still implement it. Other than that, the easiest way to get rid of "(s)" constructs would be to make the parameters generically singular or generically plural, as some other
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Currently, the template is set up to prevent any of the field labels from wrapping. Where the author or operating system fields are used, this can lead to the data being squished and can result in the infobox being substantially longer than necessary. Further to
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Actually, for initial release ("released ="), for "latest release version" and for "latest release date". The reference should be shown for initial release, "latest release version", and {{start date and age| should be used for "latest release date", see
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My own attitude to this problem has been that it isn’t actually a problem. I personally find the wrong pluralization less annoying than the (s) ending, and the classic style used in print is still grammatically acceptable (eg,
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To my understanding the "Latest release" shows the value from Wikidata that is marked as "preferred" which is not always the latest/highest value (e.g. version number or date). This is missleading.
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for the following labels. Note that the label “Standards” is presumed to be more natural English for ambiguously plural content than “Standard”. The inverse is presumed of the other two labels.
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I tried some other variants but wasn't able to select/query the real latest version nummber or date. I always have to manually modify the preferred marker in the wikidata content.
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Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, Module:WikidataIB can't display references, so it can't be used in infoboxes (even though it's made for that). And the main contributor (
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isn't a good example, as it doesn't show the date and doesn't use {{start date and age|. Note that, sometimes, only P571 exists (with just the date, not the version),
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I suggest adding {{wikidata|property|edit|reference|P348|P548=Q56514665}} to {{released}} to make it look for the release marked as initial release on Wikidata. See
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The software license under which the user is allowed to use the software. It is recommended to specify the specific license the software is released under by name
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That might work. I am not familiar with the nuances of that parameter, but if it pulls only reliably sourced data, that should satisfy the RFC's requirements. –
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Correction: I didn't realize that Module:Wikidata isn't the same as Module:Wd (so with Module:WikidataIB that makes three Wikidata modules!).
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Here's an example : {{#invoke:WikidataIB|getValueByQual|qid=Q528709|P348|qualID=P548|qvalue=Q56514665|fwd=ALL|osd=no}} shows 0.3
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Citation in the infobox is generating a red error message. It is pulling a URL from WD and using a CS1|2 template without a
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Disabling the request for now. Please re-enable, when there's consensus for which of the approaches is to be used. —⁠
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No, even though the licence might be proprietary, one still needs to know if the software is open or closed source.
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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Hm, I'd rather have on stable version than one that can render in unexpected ways. Continuing below...
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Note that an error is shown if the reference doesn't have a title, is there a way to hide that error?.
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I like this idea, but the template is not without faults when interpreting company names. For example:
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Do we have to wait for titles? I feel like doing it now can encourage updating citations on WD.
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must be used, and that only sourced data can be imported, per the Wikidata in Infoboxes RFC. –
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is for. If not, please provide an example article where that parameter is insufficient. –
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has the flag "sourced" which limits display to only sourced claims. Is that not enough?
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Is there a more automatic way that always the real latest/highest value is selected?
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You might want to try and reincorporate the edits I made. That could make it faster.
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Feel free to add code to the sandbox version of the template. Keep in mind that
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Add a row to describe if a software is open source or closed source, etc.
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It needed a title added in the Wikidata entry. Very editor-unfriendly. –
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Claims pulled from Wikidata need to be sourced. You probably need to use
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in parentheses to show optional pluralization, in most cases, we can use
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It's supposed to happen eventually, but better not hold our breath, see
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After verification, the same error is shown when no title is available.
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references without title showing an error instead of the reference URL
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to detect whether the data is plural. In cases where it is unsure,
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can use both to show as much information as is available, see
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has fixed the references without title error linked above in
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Could more fields be filled in from Wikidata automatically?
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Enable indicating major contributors, not just programmers
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Developer{{Pluralize from text|Doe and Doe LLC|plural=s}}
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Developer{{Pluralize from text|Machines, Inc.|plural=s}}
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to determine whether its use and function meets the
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E.g. the license field? Or "programming languages"?
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