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415:"'... infoboxes should not be arbitrarily decorative' ... - the garish colors serve no purpose." These colours serve the purpose of helping to distinguish between the type of releases (albums, singles, EPs, etc). Since this is basically a table summing up the numbers of various releases it becomes much more readable when each row has a different colour than with a uniform background. The standard infobox template is designed for a mix of numbers and strings in the table cells which makes it more uncluttered by default than a repetitive pattern of "text | number". The colours are there for a purpose and apparently there is consensus for including them since 2007. 121: 22: 198: 714: 139: 71: 53: 460:
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I will consider points 2 and 3 separately, in case there is more discussion of the points. 2. Color: I think you're saying that the color makes it easier to see which number goes with which label. It's true that the numbers are pretty far from the labels. However,
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I can imagine many ways it might be used without breaking sitewide consistency (I like that too), but the param exists in the base infobox to allow for edge cases, and I don't know of it being a problem. My discovery of the param came when looking for a default method of floating one on
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to the left since the right-floated images have pushed it down a bit, and I think the images shouldn't be shoved around. However, since I'm currently working on fleshing out the article, the issue has been significantly reduced; not to say it wouldn't still be nice-to-have.
422:) - it is not possible to add sources to this infobox." See the other "References & footnotes" discussions above. We just don't need references for this infobox because there is nothing to add that is not already referenced in the list itself. 964:
and should be reduced - currently images are 450px wide, while the recommended size is no more than 400px. Not to mention that the images themselves can be placed on the left (which should not be the case with infoboxes in most cases).
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Oh right, my bad. But they still look bigger than they should in my opinion (plus it's recommended to set the size via "upright" parameter). So it's not really a problem with the infobox, but with the way how images are formatted.
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Using images with this broke at some point in the past. I've recoded the image handling, per the request of someone trying to use this template and getting strange results back, and it should work exactly as intended now.
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What articles do you want to use this for? I'm inclined to think that absolutely every infobox should have the same appearance without custom formatting, and therefore this parameter is unneeded.
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This infobox definitely doesn't need to be placed on the left-side to solve such problems - that's exactly what messes up the standardised look. Speaking of this article, image sizes are
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is just what we're needing here. It has a single subtle colour that enhances the table rows and it's also much easier code-wise. Now I think we should
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This template should include a short description that is intentionally blank to further reduce the number of pages without a short description.
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I have cleared the errors in the parameters in the parameters and there are about 20 templates left with the "Remix" parameter filled in:
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That's actually an excellent solution. I was just about to code something of my own in my user sandbox but I think your latest version of
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Or maybe it's still worth to have it? As "Internet" parameter is only used in 5 articles, "B-sides" in 115, "Tribute" in 114:
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It turns out that I can achieve the same effect with much simpler syntax using the standard infobox template in
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would allow the whole infobox to be sized and positioned, if needed, without the need for a wrapper e.g.
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All of these problems could be fixed by converting the infobox to a more conventional style like
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and many others have released soundtrack albums of entirely new material. In some cases such as
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Decouple the table from the image, so an appropriate width can be chosen for both.
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templates now or only 208 articles that use this template have "Remixes" section
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Use the same color for all the entries (the white lines show the separation)
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the current color scheme probably doesn't meet the color guidelines in
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That said I propose to remove the links from the original template and
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772:(2001), they were promoted just like studio albums. Meanwhile, 358:. It is designed so that it will work with the same fields as 221: 191: 15: 901:. I see no reason it could be a problem; just being polite. 685:
edited out for now, I'm not versed enough to apply a fix.
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This infobox violates multiple style guidelines, including:
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Any objection to including default infobox option bodystyle
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Glad you like it. Merging sounds like the right solution.
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Every image on that article is explicitly set to 300px.
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When new discography additions cannot be verified (WP:V)
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usually only compiled the previously released material.
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in each article is to replace the name of the template
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contain a link". It's also similar to what it says in
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I have looked at the merger process for templates in
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Your contributions would be highly welcome! Cheers!
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content assessment
WikiProjects
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Albums
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WikiProject Albums
project page
discussion
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Discographies
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Discographies WikiProject
discography
the project page
the project's talk page

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Purpose of an infobox
Style, color and formatting
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Infobox artist
RockMagnetist
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