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Keep on checking if someone changes contents without providing sources. The page content are linked to sources that were available. If someone vandalizes this page I need you to take actions on the vandalizer. Thanks.
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This seems to be an artisan community claiming to be kshatriya by its caste association. It must be included among
Artisan communities. If there is any source proving them not to be an Artisan community be discussed
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Vaishya, thereby removing my edits. Please do not do s as I have provided links to books to confirm that the Lohanas were originally Kshatriya.
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According to records
Lohanas were Kshatriya as they belonged to the Lohara Dynasty and also James Todd, A historian also shows that they originally belonged to the rajpoots. An editor called
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That makes sense, but in future edits could you use an edit summary so others can see your rationales. There are a lot of different factors going into any sort of classification of castes.
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Please leave Lohana as they are originally
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