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I, too, would like to see some clarification of the purpose of this template. I recently found the following passage: "Latin American liberation theology met opposition from power in the US." which clearly needed further specification as to who opposed liberation theology and how and when they did
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is "for information that needs citations to make it complete, or quotations that are used without citations". So it doesn't look like a way to indicate that the article's text is missing specificity. If this merely requests references, I think the template's name and text are misleading. And what
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Based on this discussion, I've updated the template documentation and wording of the template's tooltip to clarify what this template is for, giving several examples of usage (two based on examples provided above). As for SteveMcCluskey's additional parameter request, this was added already as
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Yeah, I'd like to clear up the purpose, which I find unclear. I would like input from others about what the intended purpose of this is, and if we can't tell, what the purpose should be. By "stated purpose", do you mean you consider the first sentence to be the actual intended purpose?
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It would seem that the documentation is not altogether correct. Perhaps you'd like to rephrase it, so that is should conform better to the stated purpose of this template? Maybe the documentation was copied from another documentation file and ill adapted.
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without the fancy date stuff. The current category needs that monthly stuff because it has over 83,000 articles. But there is no such need for that with such a small category. I setup the new category with all the proper maintenance
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tag within the HTML comment that was causing the problem. It was obviously being parsed unexpectedly. I'm not sure what the intended behavior is, but the current version (without the <: -->
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Presumably the categories would need to be replaced with other categories, rather than just removed. Are there any appropriate candidate categories, or would they need to be created? — Carl
801:| link = Knowledge (XXG):Citing sources | text = specify | title = The text preceeding this tag needs specification | date = {{{date|}}} | cat = ] }}<!--{{Specify}} begin--: --> 196:" being appended to every use of this template (and following content being messed up as well). I'm attempting to fix it by following the format of other citation templates, e.g. 212:) should work regardless of changes to the parser. I'm leaving the category inclusion the way it is for now, since it follows the convention used by other related templates. -- 195:
It appears that something is broken relating to this template and its "noinclude" tag. I'm not exactly sure what the problem is, but it results in the text "<noinclude: -->
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suffers a similar problem, but it has post-text that overcomes it. Maybe add text and post-text parameters? To reproduce the problem, try adding a "See Talk page" link to my
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According to documentation, "if is likely true, but needs specificity, you may use {{Specify}}". Therefore, I would think that if I read the following in an article,
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Can we make this link somewhere else? It doesn't have any explanation of what it means except the template page, which I had to pull up the wikitext source to get.
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A possible fix would be to add a field to the template where the user could spell out what needs to be specified. I'd try myself but I don't do code. --
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This message is to inform people monitoring this talk page that there is an "editprotected" request involving this and several other templates at
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Would you please add a "Reason = " field to the template where the user could spell out what needs to be specified (a similar field is found in
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without the nowiki's of course. Might be best to move all this stuff to an unprotected /doc file (with the above cat's in includeonly, and
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Given the nature of the request, and the original discussion about the template's unclear, vague purpose, and the related discussion at
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That is, not for clarifying an ambiguous or simply unclear or unspecified statement, but for specifying the content of a statement.
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OK, I changed the template, but eventually someone will have to set up the dated categories. — Carl
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Wikilinks in the reason parameter value breaks the template's substitution. For example, "See
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without sources when the tag is only relevant for a sentence or two. Maybe whatever category
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that drew my attention to this - without that, it would continue to have gone unnoticed. --
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It might be desirable to add the same Reason field to the other related templates. --
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As I understand the documentation, the example you gave above is where you should use
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Too unspecific a request to act on, and people seem content with its present link to
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I am not sure. But I am sure that this shouldn't be putting them in a category for
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to the reason parameter, so it should automatically strip out any wikilinks. --
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Ok, after some experimenting, it appears it was the <noinclude: -->
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Template talk:Contradict-inline#Behavior of the 'reason' parameter
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Considering this template has less than 500 uses I would just put
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Please fix parameter handling, add text and post-text parameters
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Done, and documentation updated. In general, adding a
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Please fix this. If you need evidence, see Wiktionary
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Thank you both. 86:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Inline Templates 1356:parameter is more helpful than not, IMHO. 47: 923:would be the difference between this and 155:Any contributor may edit the template's 133:heavily used or highly visible template 49: 1353: 1067: 413:This should not be putting article in 1526: 816:not to have substitution protection. 803:{{Documentation}} </noinclude: --> 415:Category:All articles lacking sources 89:Template:WikiProject Inline Templates 66:This template is within the scope of 21: 19: 7: 797:{{Fix | subst = <includeonly: --> 793:Please replace the present code by 259:. I propose that this be changed to 1468:to produce an effect similar to my 38:It is of interest to the following 1575:WikiProject Inline Templates pages 1098:Please fix misspelling: preceeding 606:Please fix misspelling: preceeding 14: 800:substcheck}}</includeonly: --> 1487: 1421: 1279: 1263: 1256: 1172: 1105: 882: 832: 806:This is the last template using 764: 729: 661: 654: 611: 392:The categories have been added. 345: 283: 113: 20: 1527:Should 'needed' be Added to ''? 908:Flying cars have disadvantages. 796:<!--{{Specify}} begin--: --> 373:Category:Template documentation 1314:#Purpose? What is specificity? 261:Knowledge (XXG):Citing Sources 1: 1521:15:39, 23 November 2015 (UTC) 1482:14:07, 22 November 2015 (UTC) 1383: 1257: 1071: 877:Purpose? 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content assessment
WikiProjects
Inline Templates
WikiProject Inline Templates
the project's talk page
Template:Specify
protected
heavily used or highly visible template
consensus
edit template-protected
documentation
categories
sandbox
test cases
cn
Fru1tbat
14:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Fru1tbat
15:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):Specificity
Beland
02:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
editprotected
Beland
Knowledge (XXG):Specificity
Knowledge (XXG):Citing Sources
fact
me_and
23:06, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
ais523

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