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I didn't mean any harm. It's just that having seen what the film's content actually is, it seems more like a biopic than just a period drama. There's a difference between the two. Period drama is about events, biopics are about the person instead. At this point, since the film is indeed an epic (that
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Yes, it was me only who added this reference in the first place but that was before seeing the film's contents. I think "biographical epic action" genre fits it better, but still, I have no objections since your explanation too is valid. Thanks for explaining me in detail. I'll take care in future.
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If we want, we could settle for this. If not, action-crime is right because many critics and viewers have opined that this film has a good amount of action as opposed to what you said. So, instead of blaming us both for not reaching a "civil discussion" just because we didn't interact with you and
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Whoa, chill. No need of getting offended. I thought I uploaded a better poster. I tried to give reason in the upload section but the upload failed a couple of times due to internet issues, so I tried uploading it without reason and somehow it worked. I intended to explain how it is a better poster
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I have been looking at this for quite a time, and I'm glad you too feel my edit is correct. I don't want an edit war but I kept on reverting the "comedy" edits because I found out that the user behind the edits had been previously blocked for vandalism. Keep undoing unless they stop. The film has
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you seem to object that you cannot read the provided reference online. That is not necessary, you can obtain the book to check if you want to verify the information. If that is the only reason for your actions, they will all have to be reverted. So for that reason as well, please stop this action
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This is where the subjectivity of genre gets tricky. There's always a trap of cherrypicking sources to fit our personal biases. As a general rule, if I find that sources are not consistent in their description of a film's genre, I'll just pick the common intersection. So if sources can't agree on
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Thanks for the action. I guess reverting is the only option whenever this happens again for us. Someone seems to be having a lot of free time making these edits over and over again and again, unlike us who can't do this every single second of our life. Thanks for protecting Chakra (the page of
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The user had been warned for this on his talk page but there couldn't be action on the edits since they're way too many to be reverted. The user has also reverted a number of edits just in the name of IMDb links, and has even undone their own neo-noir edits at times.
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I'm not sure it will be clear to the casual reader that Neo-noir always implies crime (I had not realised that), but with the wikilink they have the opportunity to learn ;– in this case Neo-noir is important: after all, Porter is not Miss Marple. I agree that
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Actually, while I think I might have made a few errors like this, I can assure you that in most of the cases the editor who added neo-noir has simply stretched the genre. In some cases, they have even added "American film" to films that aren't even
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Oh, I made a mistake there. Actually, I was scanning the QR codes from certificates so I mentioned the ratings the certificates had mentioned. I didn't notice the links themselves didn't mention the classification. That's a mistake I apologize for.
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Don't mistake this for an edit war from our side, we're just protecting something I've protected since quite a few weeks. You're not the first one. There are many vandal IPs that have done the same. Sorry if you think I'm suspecting you.
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so an administrator can review potentially more harsh actions. Please, going forward, try to handle this issue amicably with the other editors and do use the talk page as it is intended for (instead of joining in an edit war). Thank you,
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The user who added this to multiple titles simply added it to titles that aren't even in the crime category such as Raging Bull and
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An IP editor appears to be branching out to the RockNRolla page as well. I have just reverted both pages again to support you. I'll be away for the next few days and you can put in one or both RFPPs with my name added and my support.
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wanted a sourced genre protected, you can either let the genre be or simply change it to action comedy. But we're not letting action go easily because most major sources do describe it as such, including its own official page.
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Thanks for improving the plot but it stands at 851 words when the maximum for film plots is 700 so could you please trim it to 700 or lower. If not i'll have a go in due course but I haven't seen the film, regards
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Please stop changing poster without giving reason. Stick only one poster at a time. When film's release date will change that time only change poster. There is not difference in you uploaded version. Thank you.
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Thanks for your response and the reassurances! I hope you will be able to check the previous edits for any further problems. As you can see, it helps other editors if you provide clear edit summaries...
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The edit has already been undone. I did it because it's not just me but several others who remove the language thing from here, but fine, I won't do it next time. Thanks for the feed :) (
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Adding to the Wikidata example, the certificate ID might be "DIL/2/4/2020-HYD Dated 07/01/2020" or "DIL/2/4/2020-HYD" and probably not the File No. "1A071912201900021". Any opinions? —
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which doesn't allow stretching the genre and instead demands simplification. Just think yourself, how simple does something like "neo-noir neo-western crime thriller" sound. (
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Please don't take the above as a warning, I wrote it as guidance. I understand what you're saying, and I think I can find about as many sites that describe it as a period drama
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comedy". We don't need to list subgenres if we have the main one and vice versa. Or if we're mentioning neo-noir, we need not to mention crime. It's that simple.
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Although it has no release date/credits, we might use it as Navdeep and Prakash Raj are also present apart from Arya. What do you say? (
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This poster is of high quality. Just wondering if you could kindly include a poster that also features Navdeep as he is the main actor.
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