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albeit it was a summary of their claims), and added 3 sources from prominent researchers (two books and an article in a book). If you yourself thinks it's too long, please kindly reply that and let the community have a discussion, as my edit suggestion is not out of hand and shouldn't be reverted like that.
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I'm sorry but your response is unclear. I wrote where to write (after "In addition, the
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No you did not. My X and Y were both starting from the words "In addition, the
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I'm sorry for your frustration, but this was not clear. Thanks for your quick response. If no other editor is involved in the discussion, I kindly ask you to initiate an RfC if it's not too much to ask. Also note as I said that one of the sources will not be accessible to me soon.
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It is in one set of quotes, it's just broken down to paragraphs and contains qoutes. I'll try again soon. Please understand there's not a single irrelevant word - it starts from the x, ending with the y, all the way to the sources.
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OK. You said it's not clear so I added an explanation, and I understand it's not allowed because you reverted it. Where can I add an explanation if not on the discussion page then? You did say I need to get a
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