User talk:Derek R Bullamore/Archive 9

1137:. I've no idea what the content of the article is like now, as it's far too long for any sane person to read, but at least it shows an effort to improve WP. Don't know about you, but I've noticed a big, big reduction in the numbers of editors who make solid improvements to music articles over the past couple of years - most of the music projects of which I'm a nominal member seem to be almost moribund, and I can count the number of regular reliable music editors on one or two hands. One of the reasons I've "come off" DYK is actually that it prioritises new articles which often aren't needed, at the expense of measures to improve existing articles - not necessarily through the GA/FA processes with which I've not been involved, but just generally. By the by, I've noticed (but haven't said anything before) that you do a lot of "tagging" of articles. That's fine, but it does often occur to me that, often, you and I are among the best placed people to actually improve those articles, with sources and considered edits. I don't really want to give myself, or you, more work, but have you noticed any 1162:

absolutely no theory as to why that should be, but you and I are going to be merely sprinkling the ocean (another euphemism), if that is all Knowledge (XXG) has got to count upon. I tend to have phases of spending days/weeks tagging items, then changing tack to adding references, then moving on to expanding death information, or maybe next trying to create new articles. I would agree, in some instances, that we are best placed to reduce, rather than increase, the amount of tags on music articles, but we are not supermen. Sadly your reference to 'quantity over quality' is spot on - there is nothing like enough effort put into improving existing articles, and way too much prominence on creating new ones. At least the DYK ones get some critical attention. There are tens of thousands of non-DYK articles, which start out as abject rubbish and go rapidly downhill from there. I theorise that tags sometimes dissuade those, who might otherwise add further opinionated twaddle to existing thinly referenced work; but it is a forlorn hope rather than truly scientific.

3536:, although my own user page claims yours truly's participation in both {User Wikiproject Rock music} and {User WikiProject Punk music}, I have no idea what they are really about. Which definitely says more about me, than them! I think I am happy working alone, with one or two sounding boards, such as your good self, to help me along the way. To be truly honest, I think my presence is splattered across most UK music articles (I'm not boasting, it's pathetic in some ways), but to my knowledge, no-one directly from any of the projects has asked my opinion on anything. This seems to indicate they can do without me, and me without them. 4392: 31: 3366:. I would tend to trust the Dead Rock Stars Club - actually (I do not know for certain, because I've never listed my source(s)) it is possible that DRSC is the very reference point that I eventually succumbed to. As ever, it is sometimes difficult to be sure, but without a decent newspaper obituary available on-line, I do not know what else to really trust - so many sites are mirrors of Knowledge (XXG). I hope this helps, old boy. Cheers, 485: 2576:? Judging by the birth and death dates given there, he must have been quite a prodigy! But, seriously, if you have any info about him pre-1961 or post-1973 it would be useful - I feel a short article coming on! Notability should be established through the Rod Stewart connection, I think, and there are various other online sources, but he seems to have disappeared after the early 70s. 1224: 3575: 713:, for example, which those musicians traded heavily in. However, if the general Wiki concensus is that the navbox does not belong on biographies, then so be it. It is certainly not a big deal to me - although I have noticed the blues equivalent in a number of blues musicians' articles. Perhaps this is more editor preferences rather than policy ? 4303: 1034: 2760:. I am wondering if you have anything in your vast array of information (perhaps too recent?), and knowledge of what is acceptable in band articles, to give your help to, or opinion on, this article. I have been supporting deletion but I’m not dogmatic enough not to change my mind if I’m off-kilter, especially as 3850:'s year of birth? Most sources that I can find seem to say 1945, but there's a long-running, slow-moving (usually), edit war on her article that seems to fluctuate between 1945 and 1942. Can you shed any light on it? She may well have cut three years off her age at some point, but on the other hand she is a 3677:

Ooh! Thank you!! A spinning one!!! - never had one of those before!!!! What have I done to deserve this? Seriously, I'm very grateful that the little that I do here does get noticed - although part of me sometimes wishes that someone would do something here that annoys me sufficiently to compel me

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I do fully accept that you are not well experienced in the ways of Knowledge (XXG); but it might be an ideal opportunity to enrich yourself with some of its guidelines and editing notes. Ultimately they are there to assist, and specifically to help those with less knowledge of the workings of Wiki to

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Yeah, I'm fine thanks. We've been to Headingley to watch Yorkshire CCC play Durham these past four days. Lovely weather on the last couple of days, more like summer than early spring, but we got well beaten. I do usually put a banner up, but I ran out of time before departing. Fascinating story on

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was taken out in 2004; the article started in 2005. It could be that the article and the web site bumph was "developed" side by side, but even this has to be some kind infringement doesn't it ? As the site doesn't say thats it's a mirror, I think we have to assume it's copyright - I shall tag as such

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makes my point actually. You have explained on the edit page what the problem is. Far too many tags are added that automatically refer to the talk page, but the editor adding the tag has not said anything on the talk page, leaving later editors to guess what was causing particular offence. IMHO tags

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I noticed that you added on the BT Express wikipedia page that more citations are needed. As a person who is very familiar with the band and their music, I don't understand the purpose for the note. Their history is well established in the music industry. Could you tell me what are you asking for?

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Hello, yes I am very well thanks - hope you are also. I have posted my comments at the AfD. To be honest I have not heard of this 'genre', although I am a little world weary of descriptive terminology for rock music, which can tend to produce a slightly different styling depending upon which side of

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Dear Sir, I'm writing here after you posted your POV tag on the Delicate Awol's band page. I've been in that band from 1997 until end 1999. The bass player and I left the band (as it is mentioned, even if Valerie L. and I are not mentioned, but this is another story) during a tour. I've been involved

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Surprised there's no article yet. "The Rumblers - named* for Link Wray's Rumble - came from Norwalk, CA, and recorded with Downey Records out of Wenzel's Records up State 42 a few miles in Downey. Founded in 1959 (first gig 1961), they had a hit with Boss on the Downey (local)/Dot (national) labels,

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Drawn a blank I'm afraid. I suspect that the anon may have been one of their number (three and considerably more), or closely affiliated thereto, so the birth details may well be correct. Also, whilst Liverpool may seem obvious, I favour the latter as Newcastle is a highly unlikely mistake. Which

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has a real profile out there among her loyal fans, and could well be notable in the non-virtual world, but perhaps difficult to prove in Knowledge (XXG) terms. I’m loath to add more to the discussion as it’s all getting a tad over-fruity. A level-headed overview would be appreciated. As always, I am

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off the top of my head - except, of course, Joe Jackson (previous communication refers). Seems strange to me when there was such a brouhaha at the time, how it all appears to have been (thankfully) swept under the carpet. Back to my usual gripe - there are too few resources (good editors) to manage

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enough to be included within Knowledge (XXG), the fact that 'their history is well established in the music industry' does not assist any potential encyclopedia reader. They need to know where the information is cited that the band was originally known as Brooklyn Trucking Express, for example. At

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Hello, Elitropia. I was, fairly recently, ruminating with Ghmyrtle about the lack of dedicated Wiki music editors, wondering why activity in this area seemed to be mainly vandalism or the addition of hogwash. Then you turn on a light in the darkened attic - well done ! The Small Faces article is

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page and are clearly an experienced wikipedia person, I'm wondering if you can help me sort out a bit of a mess I've made. I tried to add info about the new live album and link it to a new page on the album. I was in a bit too much of a hurry to get it done though and mistakenly called the new page

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by an IP, long since disappeared, back in 2007, and I haven't been able to track down any sources. I'm thinking of putting together a stub on Brian Casser, of Cass & the Casanovas etc., and there seems to be some confusion as to whether he was born in Liverpool, or in Newcastle as the article

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With all due respect, should you care to look at my editing history, you will see that I have been here over five and a half years, and made over 40,000 edits. Most of these to music based articles. I am well aware of editing etiquette. The previous edit I removed was unsourced (and seemingly a

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Where do people dig up all this info from? Which reminds me, I must clear out all those 70s magazines from the garage sometime! Yes, I've had a couple of messages from John Walker's people - glad we could do our bit by getting some reliable info up in time. Don't fall off the aqueduct - are you

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Awww, I weally wike obscure 1960s b-sides, invariably titled "I Wuv You" or variants thereof. But of course, as ever, you are right - less is more. Frankly, for someone who has followed/studied pop music all my life, I can not recall anything about the Migils. Which probably says a great deal.

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Hiya. I have not heard of this artist, but looking at the article and the comments at AfD, I can see both sides of the argument. I think it is very marginal, and the forthcoming issue of an album (hopefully on a recognisable label, rather than a self release) might sway the case further towards

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Hello again. I do not have anything to add, over and above that which I edited in earlier. Apart from the brief chart appearance, and possibly the national newspaper article, frankly this outfit teeter on the 'non-notable' setting. You have done the right thing in removing some of the unsourced

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You yourself added the comment that "Give Your Body Up to the Music" was written by Andre Saunders, but there is not an in-line citation to this effect. That is, more generally, what the {Refimprove} tag is pointing out to all potential editors. Therefore what Knowledge (XXG), not me, is asking

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I think something was lost in the translation. The whole point of asking you to nominate the article was that you would do the review of another's work, rather than me ! Actually, reading the DYK lede again, it says this only applies to self nominated articles, but perhaps it should not leave a

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bobble hat and scarf, it should really thrill the masses. Bearing in mind it is in colour (the excitement mounts already), it may knock your wigwam into the shade !?! Lovely weather here, the domestic cricket season less than a month away and, despite the forthcoming funeral, life is swimmingly

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Gosh, that spawns the euphemism 'do a Solomon' for massively, or indeed grossly, expanding an article. I am right with you on the numbers of active music editors falling away sharply. Even the regulars seem to rarely appear on my watchlist, although they may be beavering away elsewhere. I have

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Well, it could be both if I lose my footing ! My dear old friends live in Pontcysyllte (the hamlet that is, not on the bridge), so we are staying there. My dearest and I have walked across said aqueduct a couple of times before, which is an experience and a half, as I guess you know. We are

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Gosh you're a telly star now too. Puts my previous radio broadcasting stints in a poor light ! Well done. Do you watch it, cringe and think, hell I wish I had said something differently ? I could not listen back to my radio stuff, without always musing how I might have done it considerably

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But apart from that, I've drawn a blank from my own library. No UK chart presence. I do know the name though, but it will not come to me as to quite why I do (apart from Rod the Mod connection)..... Ahhhh (Brumbeat.net article), it's the Rockin' Berries connection AND he played, with at least

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You could be right; it would not be the first time I have seen an article of an band, at least partly edited by that band's member (current or otherwise). However, looking at the edit history there, I am not sure. Either way, it is in conflict with Knowledge (XXG)'s neutral policy, hence my

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I noticed you added this to some biographies (Lyttleton etc). As they don't feature in the Navbox (nor do any other musicians), I don't see it as adding anything to assist the page user? I tend to remove this Navbox from biographical articles when I see it. Happy to discuss this approach at

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over that weekend, so I am hoping that my lovely lady reminds me to keep the beer and vertigo events separate. I am pleased that you could put John Walker's article on the right track. As far as the old-time info is concerned, blimey - we worry that we are wasting our lives away. Sleep

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and discuss your proposed changes with other editors before going on an "editing project". What you are currently doing is just making work for other editors to correct. If you keep doing it, I will start reverting all your changes which are introducing these style issues into articles.

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Well, I've seen far worse (and I guess so have you). I have lost track of the amount of times I have seen Twitter, YouTube, Facebook or even IMDb cited in various articles. You've done well considering the passage of time, and the relative lack of notability for these outfits. I've

4059:: "Do not insert any number of quotations in a standalone section." We used to allow a standalone quotations section, we no longer do. Quotations should be integrated into the article text. They may not be in standalone sections. Don't listen to the IP, it is ignorant of the 3873:. My records show 1942 for Payne, but I do not have a verifiable source to hand. I suspect it is correct though, for the usual showbiz reasons. I will have a look around for something more definitive in the next couple of days - if I can find anything before you. Cheers, 1180:. I got a barnstar for the earlier version. Plus the time I spent on the affiliated single and album articles - I haven't looked at those since. Perhaps we could have a go at dear old Joe together ? I need more time to think about others that might be worth a bash. Cheers, 1468:

instead. I find the 'The Dead Rock Stars' website an accurate and trustworthy source (despite its quirky appearance); although some Wiki editors seem a little sniffy about it. Frankly, in my long experience, it reports more accurately than most news sources. Hope this

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Actually, in the past year or so, I have not generally attempted to greatly expand any article (do a Solomon). This dates back to the copyvio incident, which completely knocked my confidence, and saw great swathes of my work disappear (thousands of man hours work).

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connections perhaps, or more probably clones thereof. On a completely unrelated topic, apart from the timeframe, I must ask my dearest if she could upload a photo of me on to my Wiki page ('cos I'm hopeless and can't do it myself). Circa 1963, dressed in my

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Oooh yeah, a trip down memory lane. I have had a quick glance, but I will spend longer wading through this one at some point. It is a new one on me too. Not too sure about its copyright credentials though ! On a vaguely similar style, have you come across

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stuff, although sentences remain that seem to be opinionated rather than having any source. I have not bothered to check on-line for anything, but I notice a couple of edits have occurred since yours, which do nothing but slew the piece further towards POV.

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addition of the POV tag. Frankly, without any further knowledge of this band, it is as far as I wish to go with the article. You quickly learn here that it is not possible to change everything for the better yourself, no matter how hard one tries. Regards,

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or another, after my posting (proving it is not just me), and continue to 'tirelessly' beaver away, trying to improve and enhance this farcical encyclopedia. Plus, you told a bot (whatever that is) that it was talking bollocks - priceless. We're off to

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Good call - many thanks. I can't track down the original poster of this change but from the nature of other changes made from the same anonymous portal gives me to understand that there's some local knowledge there, so I'm trusting it. Thx for yr help.

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I also appreciate you are trying to do the right thing here, and that is very much to be encouraged. Too often vandalism, and the insertion of complete poppycock and/or unsourced opinion, truly blights Knowledge (XXG) music related articles. Happy

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Accepted. It's the only information I have been able to find. The article on Italian Knowledge (XXG) has no sources at all. There seems to be nothing in print readily available. I suggest the article is left with the tag until it can be improved.

1560:) some time ago, so I'd appreciate a quick look to see if you, from your extensive knowledge, have anything further to add to the thing... revert anything you think fit. I saw this one in my random patrol and just couldn't resist it. Many thanks. 1730:

Johnny Pearson appears to of died last Sunday. My respect for Mr Pearson is huge and want only for now his memory to have a good article. Can you list some suggestions on better wiki for this. There is much more to tell in the future. Regards

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Quotations sections were deprecated a long time ago. Please stop adding them to articles. The correct course of action would be to add the quotation to Wikiquote, then add a Wikiquote template to the external links section of the article.

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A couple other observations: we do not put place of birth after the subject name with the date of birth. Moving the place of birth there is incorrect. Don't do it. We don't use the "cquote" template for quotations unless they are

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a while ago (and got a helpful email from his wife in return!!), and it didn't take very long to add big chunks of his biography and a discography into the article. Thoughts welcome. Anyway, good to hear from you. Regards,

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The Allmusic source is a good one, and the fact the band contains members who are clearly notable themselves tips the balance. The article I deleted was very minimal; I would have no objection to you creating a new article.

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While I appreciate your effort to keep Knowledge (XXG) tidy, there is a problem with the current official deepest blue website link, It is not a link to Deepest Blue Official website, this is the closest official website :

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Your welcome, the name Victuallers is intended to suggest bon -homie - please send beer in post. Note you will still need to review someone olses hook on the page to make your DYK acceptable. See nearby hooks to yours.

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Hi - I'm working on reducing the backlog of category:BLP unreferenced articles and I chanced upon your name. Wow man you reference your articles soo well - its refreshing to see someone who makes my life easier.

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Everything is documented and has relevance to the article, if you believe some of it is written poorly, I'll be glad to change it, links and press releases for the band have been taken from relevant sources.

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copy-vio to boot), and merely duplicated sourced information already existing in the Mick Ronson article. In other words, it was 'constructive'. Please be more careful in the future in making accusations.

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Back on the topic, for a last go as it seems to me that this could last ages. How could I have proof ? What kind of proof is requested ? This is simply my opinion, as a past musician in that band. Regards.

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Bobby Jameson (although I must confess, I've never heard of him) - that must have taken some researching ! Thanks for helping Kapercaillie out, whilst I was indulging in the seedy side of Leeds. Cheers,

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and self promotion. Have you proof that this applies to this article, or is it simply your opinion ? As you may be aware, the question of a neutral viewpoint for articles is one of Knowledge (XXG)'s

2597:"(Rod) Stewart worked as a gravedigger and undertaker before joining R&B outfits Jimmy Powell & The Five Dimensions in 1963 (on harmonica and vocals), then The Hoochie Coochie Men in 1964." 2830:

In Derek's absence - the lazy sod hasn't been here for 24 hours!! - I've moved it for you. All you needed to do is click the "Move" tab at the top of the page and fill out the details. Cheers,

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that Antonio Martinez has died. I also could not find other reliable sources indicating this. If you can, or somebody else can, then that would be great. I will continue to search. Take care.

162:, where it makes the point that "COI editing is strongly discouraged". One of the main reasons for this approach by Knowledge (XXG), is that such action almost inevitably leads to violation of 745:, what is your justification for the following comment? "But, oh how we laughed, momentarily, then thought collectively, "what a cunt". Derek R Bullamore (talk) 01:30, 22 February 2011 (UTC)" 4205:

Point taken, Derek, and my apologies. Yworo has a history of harassing IPs, and he had his page protected so IPs can't message him about it. Again, my apologies and thanks for your patience.

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Has nobody else spotted this, or am I just barking up the right tree ? It's wonderfully helpful sometimes when an editor leaves a useful link to a probable copy vio - saves us a lot of work:

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in the (early) promo stuff of the band, like coding the website. The promo was mainly produced by the band itself, and I think this is still the case. Best Regards, Yann Faurie (France)

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Seems you have a history of stalking yourself. Go ahead, report it. I want an admin to take a close look at your history of personal attacks, edit warring, and now stalking and talk page

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Hello again. My point is about "The neutrality of this article is disputed." : when people write about themselves, how much neutrality can they express ? So little in that case. Regards.

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Derek Roberts A.P.A.S.C.I. Chapter President Northwoods Regional Vice President Adirondacks Global Accounts Manager CEO, Multiplex Theatres Inc. Vice President, Jason McGillicutty LLC

1790:... in December I see you added his full name "John-Cory Christian Mitchell". This information is gold dust to us at Bandtoband.com where we have his name as "John-Christian Mitchell". 986:. If you do not, you will be listed as inactive. Your name will be moved to the Inactive/former members section and/or the the project punk userbox will be removed from your user page. 3595: 2649:

How is it that, of all the sources I'd found (and there's quite a few) I'd managed to miss that one?! Very grateful to you. Off into the garden now, to get a break from all this!

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Thank you. In an environment where everyone works alone, it is sometimes not easy to gauge the effect you are having. Your kind comments come as a very nice surprise. Many thanks,

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etc. Generally these 1960s group members seem predisposed to interminable quarrelling, ad nauseum. Nevertheless, there it is. Why do I half wonder whether you have led me into a

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weighing four stone at the age of 26. She raised seven kids during that time and the years following - my wife was the youngest of them, born in 1952. We think we had it tough.

790:– we are both quizzical about this. I thought I would ask you, as music expert, if you could add an opinion, or perhaps information, about this exotic genre. Hope you are well. 1708:

Please could you give some hints on the Johnny Pearson page, you have referenced. There is some serious research here but it seems there are problems with the formattting.

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Thanks for your comments. If you want an example of how one interested (some would say obsessed) editor can "improve" an article (or at least massively expand it), compare

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are the latest trio of delights seemingly without an article that I throw your way. Also, probably much more in your line of interest, do you know anything worth adding to

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No, not really. Most fan sites are notoriously unreliable, and normally user-generated without any overall editorial input. For more information, and guidance, please see

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Because of this, your Service Award level has been changed, and you are now eligible for a higher level. I have taken the liberty of updating your award on your user page.

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made a series of additional singles and an LP, and disbanded in 1965 when guitarist Johnny Kirkland was drafted. They also recorded as the Nylons and the Bel Cantos." -

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for, is more reliable third-party references to cover those parts of the information in the article that are presently unsourced. I hope this is clear and assists you.

2604:". That's notability sorted, but otherwise I can't help further. I guess he just drifted away from music in the early 1970s (lack of success, no label, no money etc.) 2252:

an ever growing pile of dross. Mind you, I do continue to feel to this day, that the copyvio exercise was a oversized, bloated sledgehammer to crack a puny, ickle nut.

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With all due respect to both editors, please continue your bickering elsewhere. You have both made your points, and I have already moved on. Please follow likewise.

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The fact is that I simply duplicated information from the article's information box into the main article. I assumed good faith from the previous addition here -

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loophole such as this. I am not comfortable reviewing other's work, otherwise I would have simply nominated it myself. On the other matter, I tried pouring some

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Jumped a bit too soon - the copy vio began May/June 2009. So there is an earlier version to revert to - but even that's flawed. I'll see what happens - ho hum.

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That was factual information, I'm just deciding how I'm going to source these history books while looking at proper AP sourcing. Why did you delete my work?

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No, I haven't got anything on this outfit. You have done well to unearth what you did - nice article. I added a reference for the chart placings. Cheers,

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articles - of important musicians - who we (or I) should target for improvements in the way of biography, discography, etc.? For instance, I had a go at

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I'm guessing that somebody had hacked the template that Derek used, though I can't find evidence of that. I doubt that this was Derek's actual comment.

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and adds the words "banned user." First, it makes no sense. What does an article have to do with a banned user? Secondly, he's making personal attacks

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instead of Tom at Tut's. I don't know how to change the title of the page, so I've had to take the apostrophe out of the name on Tom's page as well as

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Thanks Arjayay - I'd got a very old version of the book that site's derived from, but never realised there was an online version before. Excellent!

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is clearly an internal, not external link. Secondly, your user name suggests a close connection to Schultz - in which case you need to be aware of

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Sorry to hear that Derek - take as long a time out as you need. Some things are more important than others. Look after yourself and your family.

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I suggest ignoring Yworo's opinions about how article are written. For example, he tells you that quotations are "deprecated", but two days ago he

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notability. Frankly, I do not feel strongly enough either way to pass comment at AfD. "I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not too sure". Cheers,

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is hardly a decent Wiki style reference, but I do not hold anything better. Apart from three aces; which may well beat your royal flush. Cheers,

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that refer to the talk page should automatically open the talk page when they are saved, to remind {force?) the tagger to explain what they mean.

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before ? Another mine of useless information for the sad, needy and desperate (me). Moving on again; truly sad, but not unexpected, news about

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I agree with the proposed deletion - my only action on the article was to place the {Notability} tag, so such a course is of no surprise to me.

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However, I suspect the introduction to his poems (issued 11 years before he died) probably got the year right - albeit it doesn't give a date.

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Hmm, that's interesting - apparently I replied to you 35 minutes before you asked the question. I know I can be quick on the draw but... ??

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was not actually minor. For future reference, any edit performed on article text beyond typo correction is not considered minor. Thanks! --

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If there's anything you can do to help that would be much appreciated since my Knowledge (XXG) skills are obviously no match to yours...

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were Nelson Keene and Dick Jordan?? Bugger, I'll have to go and find out now. But, if you want a real magnum opus, cast your eyes over

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Ah, I see the problem. His entry has been moved from the 'New Entries' page to '1990' (the year of his death, as reported). Try here

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not perfection - which one is - but the vast improvement is there for all to see. Gather some disciples and spread the word. Cheers,

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hooley against Der-um, der-um, der-um der-um der-um. My dearest and I will be truly nithered but happy - summer's coming ! Regards,

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I did not even know it existed, which might say more about the project than it does about me. Frankly, it seems great in principle

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Sorry, missed your earlier post - I'll see what I can do (if they meet my personal "notability" / "do I care?" criteria, that is!)

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Thanks. I could add a discography, but how many obscure B-sides by failed British 60s bands do people really need to know about?!

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tomorrow where I can confidently predict that, over the next four days (or less), my precious Tykes will get a major stuffing from

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a week on Friday, so if I am not about on Wiki, do not assume the worse. Actually do, I'll probably over indulge in sherbet and

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Greetings! Do you happen to have any information on the birth details of the members of The Big Three? Details were added in

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I only ask because you often put up a banner when you're away. Hope you're out enjoying the sunshine! Feel free to check out

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I've reverted an IPs change to 9 March 1945 as it contradicted the reference cited in the article - the Dead Rock Stars Club.

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Hello there. There are a number of issues here. Firstly, the question of the suitability of 'external links' is covered at

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Hello, and welcome to Knowledge (XXG). Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Knowledge (XXG), at least one of

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Hell, I'd forgotten the Rockin' Whatsits too, and I think they are/were on my watchlist. When articles are 'edited' (

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Oh man, you know, I thought about that, but I was not sure. Thanks so much for pointing this out ! I feel stupid.

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in those years - and you've not done Dick Jordan yet. What the hell is matter with you ? By the way, my darling

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Have you changed your mind about submission for DYK ? I am conscious of the time factor, that's all. Regards,

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Wow, he did a lot in two years - particularly impressed that he issued records before he was born !?! Well,

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says. Doesn't life lead us down some overgrown and narrow byways??!! Any info welcome as usual! Regards,

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A search for references found two minor published (gBook) mentions, and a few online. Does not seem to meet

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in the creation log and didn’t know quite how to approach it. I asked advice from speedy delete specialist

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to get more of a life elsewhere.... (Not tempting fate, of course!) Anyway, muchas gracias again. :-)

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got off to an inaugral 2011 victory this week, and I'm off to Headingley on Thursday for the opening home

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the street you were born. I really think it is the shortage of sources that gives the game away. Cheers,

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I see you were correct and the article has been deleted - well done, that's one less to worry about. -

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I've replaced the source. It's a fan site - is that reliable? If anyone has a print source, great.

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Actually, whilst I remember, we are off on our travels again this week to Headingley, and then to

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Good to hear it. The Jameson story is fascinating, although his blog doesn't half go on a bit!

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Look - it's red!! Formerly Johnny Milton and the Condors, apparently. Off you go..... :-)

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polite word; mainly meaning degraded or vandalised, or bequeathed with copious fancruft bollocks

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Hiya. I added a reference and minor tweaks, but am struggling for a 'hook' - any thoughts ? -

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Don't know if this has been raised with you before, but do you have anything definitive on

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Unfortunately, no one can deal with it, as nobody knows what the problem, if any, might be.

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Hi Derek! Recently I cleaned up and fully referenced the Small Faces article. Here is the

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Well, I'll bear them in mind - though my first reaction, apart from the Joy Strings who I

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Actually, both Nero and the Gladiators plus the Moontrekkers fall into the same category.

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Eeee, poor old Fred. He'd not been well for some time. Rather messes up the song title !

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Yes fine, whilst I would not wish to doubt your contribution, what exactly is your point ?

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Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Music of the United Kingdom

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You're stalking me and edit warring. Don't worry, you'll soon be blocked, banned user.

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Allmusic claiming he was born in 1963, died in 1965 but was still recording in 1969 is

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While all contributions to Knowledge (XXG) are appreciated, content or articles may be

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Yworo has once again confirmed he doesn't know what he's talking about. He links an

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A long lie down is definitely required. You must have the investigative powers of

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Well, off I jolly well went. For some reason, I have visions of conflict - as per

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Picking you and your reader’s brains yet again. I have been contributing to this:

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Whilst I do not doubt your knowledge of this ensemble, or that they are obviously

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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I'll get back to it in a day or so, and put a discography in as well. Regards,

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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conjures up a scene of bonhomie and good ale, which I recommend to all. Cheers,

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Can you track down any birth and death dates? I can't find anything at all.

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Knowledge (XXG):Manual of Style (linking)#What generally should not be linked

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Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but, I really could not find anywhere on that

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing

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tomorrow, to probably witness another Tyke thrashing. Actually we saw the

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Just so we can double-check this information, where did you come by it?

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in an envelope to send to you, but it seeped out of the bottom - sorry.

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My wife's mother died yesterday, so I do not have much time at present.

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Thanks Guy, you're a real good egg. Mabel was 91 and counting, so in

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Hi Derek, do you any info on Iain's birthdate in your files? Thanks.

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with the nickname in quotes before the last name. Thus, for example,

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are not. Without checking every one, I do immediately note links to

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good... I'm bound to get squished by a runaway tractor. All the best,

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Tee hee. Actually, do you think I should not place a tag (or two) on

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I have a knotty and perhaps entertaining little one for you. I found

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Welcome back! Yup, I'm sure you're right. Following discussion at

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restored a quotation to an article with no adequate justification:

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They can't be bothered to fix it, or even explain on the talk page.

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I might as well throw at you Stuart Gillies (1973 - "Amanda") and

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They are, however, happy to litter the place up with useless tags.

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Hi I removed some of the wikilinks you added to common terms in

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Well, you received two complimentary comments regarding some

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seventeen others who claimed to do so, the harp on Millie's "

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Yes, it proves we are sometimes worthy of trying our best !

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she had a damn good knock. To give one example, she was in

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present this statement, along with several others, has no

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You are receving this because your user name is listed in

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inclined to defer to your better judgment. Best wishes,

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They probably even think they are doing something useful.

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for any test edits you would like to make, and read the

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An inspiring life Derek. Sorry for you and your's loss.

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Somebody thinks something might be wrong with this page.

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I thought that it might help the viewer, taking them to

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Hello again Robman, but sadly, no I don't. I have two

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PS. More info on pre and post 'fame years' are here -

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Just got home from a few days away at cricket at the

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instructions, or look at a featured article, such as

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restoring of quotations. In other words, it's OK if

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