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Bradford library and pulling out copies of the T&A on microfiche I don't know what else to do. As I said also the links to the old newpaper article from the sun herald from the previous edit are dead, so something needs to be done about that, as at the minute there is no reliable source for the tale in any version. OK, cheers speak soon.
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I also think the article needs a section on 'critical reappraisal', as a big part of the film's story was that it was a mostly forgotten cult throughout the 80s, when it was seen as a sexist throwback or an undistinguished pulp film. Gangster films were not classed as having artistic merit in the
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OK, thanks for removing the template. I think there is information about the poster in
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Hi Bob, sorry for the delay getting back to you. If you wouldn't mind sorting out those weblinks that'd be great. They were links that were added before I started working on it. Cheers. Now I've nominated it I keep seeing bits that I think are not very strong, the filming bit needs a lot more
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Whoops, and of course a discussion of the themes in the film, which are its basis in revenge tragedy, corruption hypocrisy and crime, the north-south divide, death and maybe something about hodge's signature touches- I think he's a bit of an auteur in his own way, and terribly underrated.
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