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said, that there were three kinds of computer languages: production, experimental, and 'the languages we are stuck with'. It said that there were only like 4 or 5 production languages: Java, C++/C#, something and Ruby, and it gave reasons for each. Unfortunately I forgot what that 'something' was, and the article, as is the fate of good things, is not online anymore. Then those 'languages we are stuck with' are otherwise languages used internally by certain programs, which we are forced to learn whether we want, or not. Those would be like bash, Lisp (emacs), Tcl/Tk and others. I intentionally omitted Perl and Python, as I am not sure which of the two categories decribed so far they belonged to. Then he went on about experimental languages, of the many he mentioned I can remember only Haskell.
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possibility that the page I started will raise a controversion. But again, that's the fate of all the new WP pages nowadays. Almost all the non-controversial WP entries have been created by now (except deep technicalities), so creating pages today is a matter of structuring the information. The reasons why I proceeded with the proposed page were not exactly community consensus. You seem to be willing to listen a bit, so I will explain a bit.
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and I know how some people simply mentally surpass others by several levels. I think this programmer was the case. Never again I heard anyone talking so clearly and logically on tnis subject. So this might just be my message for you: If you have somebody to teach, make sure they learn something useful when they start taking interest in programming.
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Some years ago, I found a web article about comparison programming languages. There are tons of such articles on the web. I was picking through them for more than a week, before I found the one that really rocked (well written and consistent). It was written by a pro Google developer and it basically
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So somehow, that Google developer made me think that Ruby is a member of some "big 4" general purpose computer languages, which are not a waste of time to learn. I know how this might sound, but I believe this single guy more than the whole crowd of other writers. I did some math competitions before
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An attempt to explain my point more clearly: Sorry I didn't make my point clearly when I said "i think it would be equally of value to provide a list of resources for R or SAS.". The specific language wasn't the point. Pick something you do know enough about to follow what is done - C, Excel, basic,
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I actually checked other programming languages before I started making my list, and I found that computer languages in general do not have such lists of resources available. So I was sure that creating it would be bending customs, if not necessarily rules. I cannot say that I was oblivious to the
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It was basically this guy who talked me into Ruby. As I started to use Ruby for biology calculations, the problems have emerged, mostly with versions of Ruby, versions of Rubygems, version switching and such. The documentation I used to learned from turned out to be obsolete, described methods
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Please do not regard this topic as something private to my person. As I already said, there are other users who believe that . Please understand that this is an issue I'm trying to resolve, not something I just made up due to excess of ego and free time.
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Nope, I'm in the process of asking the copy of the text from Sandstein. Also, I believe that the admin in question grossly overstepped by deleting the article; Feathercoin notability is already not in question.
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to me, that Java, C, and that other language are older and more mature, that they change less nowadays, respect backward compatibility more and whatnot. I hereby admit, I was bluffing. I was talking as if I was
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deprecated, and so on. I went on with Ruby nevertheless, with relative success, compared to Octave, which I used before that. That's how I learned how difficult it was to get valid online info on Ruby problems.
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I actually do not know precisely to what degree Java, C and that other "production languages" suffer from the immaturity problem, but Ruby definitely is the youngest of the 4, by a wide margin. It only
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Hi I noticed you wanted to keep the Feathercoin article. Do you happen to have a copy somewhere? I'm on a mission to rescue coin related WP articles about to be deleted by copying them to
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Hey KK - it is always good to login to Wiki before making edits, so I could have left you a msg on your userpage earlier. I find two problems with the following sentence:
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recursively through the mouth of one of his characters (scientist Alfred Testa speaking about Aristid Acheropoulos' "The New Cosmogony" in Lem's Perfect Vacuum).
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Why not? Sorry that I'm answering only after four years, but I'll go to the page to see what has changed there.
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