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a chat room. People may have chatted while developing an article, but is this going to help future editors working on the page? Probably not, so condense it to what is relevant to the article, bringing out the points of argument, while leaving behind the personal attacks and off topic comments about
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Refactoring a page does not have to be as complex as rewriting it. A page can be more readable simply by grouping related topics together. Most talk pages will be chronological. You don't need to keep this structure. Perhaps a page would be clearer if split into a list of for and against
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Howdy, I'm setting up an anti-idiotarian notice board in order to coordinate the efforts of wikipedian's concerned about the infiltration of anti-western POV and apologetics into wikipedia. I'd be honored if you would add this page to your watch list.
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