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Year I · Issue 7 · July 8, 2008 – August 6, 2008
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    Article of the month: Forti (current GA candidate)

    Forti Corse, commonly known as Forti, was an Italian motor racing team chiefly known for its brief, and unsuccessful, involvement in Formula One in the mid-1990s. It was established in the 1970s and competed in lower formulae for two decades, with some success. The team graduated to F1 as a constructor and entrant in 1995 and continued into 1996, before succumbing to financial problems mid-season. The team competed in a total of 27 Grands Prix, scoring no points, and is recognised as one of the last truly privateer teams to race in an era when many large car manufacturers were increasing their involvement in the sport.

    (More...)

    Championship standings and Grand Prix results
    Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points
    1st United KingdomLewis Hamilton McLaren 62
    2nd FinlandKimi Räikkönen Scuderia Ferrari 57
    2nd BrazilFelipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari 54
    4th United KingdomRobert Kubica BMW Sauber 49
    5th GermanyNick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 41
    6th FinlandHeikki Kovalainen McLaren 38
    7th ItalyJarno Trulli Toyota F1 22
    8th SpainFernando Alonso Renault F1 18
    9th AustraliaMark Webber Red Bull 18
    10th GermanyTimo Glock Toyota F1 13
    11th BrazilNelson Piquet, Jr. Renault F1 13
    12th BrazilRubens Barrichello Honda F1 11
    13th GermanyNico Rosberg WilliamsF1 8
    14th JapanKazuki Nakajima WilliamsF1 7
    15th United KingdomDavid Coulthard Red Bull 6
    15th GermanySebastian Vettel Toro Rosso 6
    17th United KingdomJenson Button Honda F1 3
    18th FranceSébastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 2
    Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Points
    1st ItalyScuderia Ferrari 111
    2nd United KingdomMcLaren 100
    3rd GermanyBMW Sauber 90
    4th JapanToyota F1 35
    5th FranceRenault F1 31
    6th AustriaRed Bull 24
    7th United KingdomWilliamsF1 16
    8th JapanHonda F1 14
    9th ItalyToro Rosso 8
    10th IndiaForce India 0
    11th JapanSuper Aguri 0*
    Standings after the 2008 Hungarian Grand Prix. See 2008 Formula One season for further season summary and formula1.com or ITV-F1.com (and there is more there for the championship) for complete standings and statistics.
    ^Note 1 : Super Aguri withdrew from the championship on the Wednesday before the Turkish Grand Prix.
    GermanyGerman Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st United KingdomLewis Hamilton United KingdomMcLaren 1:31:20.874
    2nd BrazilNelson Piquet, Jr. FranceRenault F1 +5.586
    3rd BrazilFelipe Massa ItalyScuderia Ferrari +9.339
    4th GermanyNick Heidfeld GermanyBMW Sauber +9.825
    5th FinlandHeikki Kovalainen United KingdomMcLaren +12.411
    6th FinlandKimi Räikkönen ItalyScuderia Ferrari +14.403
    7th PolandRobert Kubica GermanyBMW Sauber +22.682
    8th GermanySebastian Vettel ItalyToro Rosso +33.299
    9th ItalyJarno Trulli JapanToyota F1 +37.158
    10th GermanyNico Rosberg United KingdomWilliamsF1 +37.625
    German Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one United KingdomLewis Hamilton United KingdomMcLaren 1:15.666
    BrazilFelipe Massa ItalyScuderia Ferrari 1:15.859
    Row two FinlandHeikki Kovalainen United KingdomMcLaren 1:16.143
    ItalyJarno Trulli JapanToyota F1 1:16.191
    Row three SpainFernando Alonso FranceRenault F1 1:16.385
    FinlandKimi Räikkönen ItalyScuderia Ferrari 1:16.389
    Row four PolandRobert Kubica GermanyBMW Sauber 1:16.521
    AustraliaMark Webber AustriaRed Bull 1:17.014
    Row five GermanySebastian Vettel ItalyToro Rosso 1:17.244
    United KingdomDavid Coulthard AustriaRed Bull 1:17.503
    HungaryHungarian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st FinlandHeikki Kovalainen United KingdomMcLaren 1:37:27.067
    2nd GermanyTimo Glock JapanToyota F1 +11.0
    3rd FinlandKimi Räikkönen ItalyScuderia Ferrari +16.8
    4th SpainFernando Alonso FranceRenault F1 +21.6
    5th United KingdomLewis Hamilton United KingdomMcLaren +23.0
    6th BrazilNelson Piquet FranceRenault F1 +32.2
    7th ItalyJarno Trulli JapanToyota F1 +36.4
    8th PolandRobert Kubica GermanyBMW Sauber +48.3
    9th AustraliaMark Webber AustriaRed Bull +58.8
    10th GermanyNick Heidfeld GermanyBMW Sauber +67.7
    Hungarian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one United KingdomLewis Hamilton United KingdomMcLaren 1:20.899
    FinlandHeikki Kovalainen United KingdomMcLaren 1:21.140
    Row two BrazilFelipe Massa ItalyScuderia Ferrari 1:21.191
    PolandRobert Kubica GermanyBMW Sauber 1:21.281
    Row three GermanyTimo Glock JapanToyota F1 1:21.326
    FinlandKimi Räikkönen ItalyScuderia Ferrari 1:21.516
    Row four SpainFernando Alonso FranceRenault F1 1:21.698
    AustraliaMark Webber AustriaRed Bull 1:21.732
    Row five ItalyJarno Trulli JapanToyota F1 1:21.767
    BrazilNelson Piquet, Jr. FranceRenault F1 1:22.371
    --Diniz(talk) 22:41, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

    Hi, thanks for the advice and for sending those pages. I hope to contribute to Knowledge (XXG) as best I can, adding/editing facts if needed.

    (F1-franatica (talk) 12:37, 8 August 2008 (UTC))

    Happy First Edit Day!

    Happy First Edit Day, Midgrid/Archive 6, from the Knowledge (XXG) Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

    Patman21 (talk) 00:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

    Hi!...

    ...and well done!!!! I see we've had a recent burst in recipients and members. It was well kept up to date. I want to know everything that is new and is needed. Chubbennaitor 17:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

    P.S. Oh and Happy B'day. My sisters B'day was 6th August and sadly the death of one of my mums colleagues.

    Well done for being on Wiki' two years - I'll be reaching that milestone in a few months! BTW, all's looking good at the FAC.... =) D.M.N. (talk) 19:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

    Yes it was apart from one of the worst journeys back on the ferry across the Atlantic Ocean to Plymouth. The Earth's still spinning. Uum how's the NW been doig for ya? Chubbennaitor 07:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

    Great! Not all the way across the atlantic but over the Atlantic that runs alongside West France from Spain. Chubbennaitor 07:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

    Forti GA review

    Hi! I have reviewed the Forti article, and placed it on hold as I have some concerns over the article. I have described these on its talk page. Please let me know when you have addressed my concerns, and I will be happy to take a second look. Regards, Resolute 05:22, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

    Hi! Yes, I intend to complete the review. I wouldn't leave someone hanging over my frustration with an unrelated issue. I'll take a second look tomorrow to update the review. Regards, Resolute 01:31, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
    You're welcome! Great job on that article. Resolute 16:40, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

    SNIST

    Hi Diniz, could you please tell me what's an SNIST screamer??

    Hydedit Hydedit (talk) 06:01, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

    A little something...

    The Original Barnstar
    For helping me get the 1995 Japanese Grand Prix article to FA-class by providing references from your Autocourse book and by providing suggestions on the talkpage. Thanks! D.M.N. (talk) 15:59, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
    Could you give me very brief reference for the page number to and from for the Pacific round. I'm guessing from about p. 209 to p. 215, but just want to make sure. =D D.M.N. (talk) 16:06, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
    OK. I take it all the statistics are on pages 214 + 215! When do you leave home and go back to Uni for the new term? D.M.N. (talk) 21:10, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
    OK. Just asking in case I need anything. =) D.M.N. (talk) 11:40, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
    Could you possibly provide me with the top ten times from the second practice session that took place. Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 14:13, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
    Thanks! Do you think it looks good so far, from the start down to the end of the practice section? D.M.N. (talk) 14:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
    Thank you very much! =D D.M.N. (talk) 15:50, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
    I've left comments, with a request (concerning Hill). Also, is there some kind of rundown of the main events during the race - at the moment I find myself sourcing the BBC coverage for most of the race action! Could you also give notes from the book for the practice, race and post-race sections. Sorry if that's asking too much. Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 16:16, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
    OK. No rush. =) D.M.N. (talk) 20:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

    Thanks for your quotes, which I've since integregated into the article. I responded to the comment at the bottom of the talkpage. One final thing (for now). At the back of the Autocourse, is there by any chance a similar table to this one (see first table). If so, could you provide me the page ref. Again, thanks for the quotes! =) D.M.N. (talk) 18:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

    Also, I'm almost certain one of the words in the Coulthard post-race quote is wrong. It read as: "In retrospect, I wish I could blame someone else for this decision, because I can't." - I think that's meant to be "but I can't". D.M.N. (talk) 18:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
    OK. D.M.N. (talk) 19:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

    Motorsport Digital Archive

    Hi. I haven't really had time to get into it in depth, but here're my thoughts so far:

    • It's got the whole of the content of the magazine (as far as I can tell) for the period in question. (Including many many pages of ads in the 1980s version). The pages are in colour where the original was. That should make it a really useful resource.
    • The content has been scanned fairly carefully, and at a plenty high enough resolution to read properly.
    • You access the content through a flash reader, which is a bit limited in what it can do. You get two different levels of zoom, and flipping from page to page is a bit slow. It has a search facility through which you can search either a single issue or the whole content of the archive. It's not able to highlight the search terms on the page though, so you may still have a bit of a search on your hands if it's not immediately obvious where the relevant text is. You can also browse through a series of thumbnails. You can also print from the reader.
    • The content is stored as a set of jpg images and txt files. So if you need to you could, with a little trouble, copy and paste content.

    If you're interested in the periods in question, I'd say it was pretty good value - 120 back issues for 40-odd quid. I could send you some example pages if you want to see what sort of stuff the magazine covered at the time. Hope that's helpful! 4u1e (talk) 08:00, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

    Not here

    I'm not here for the weekend. Chubbennaitor 08:02, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

    Sorry for the big text I got carried away. I'm sorry on weekend races my family say oh we're going to Spain or London. I enjoy going it's just when they plant it it is conveniently placed on a GP weekend. I'm going to see some relatives and maybe Woking. Chubbennaitor 12:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


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    Images

    Hi Diniz. Just wanted to say thanks for all the good work you do adding images to F1-related (and probably lots of other) articles. And the best thing is, when I look at an edit history and see an edit from you with the description "+image", I know I don't need to check it, because you always do it properly. Keep up the good work! DH85868993 (talk) 02:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

    Send out tomorrow

    I think the NW should go out tomorrow due there's no other things going on. Chubbennaitor 17:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

    Right can you see if there are any mistakes. I have but you seem to be better. Chubbennaitor 18:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

    Great sending out. Chubbennaitor 08:17, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

    OK I thought that was doing but I was wrong fine. Chubbennaitor 16:22, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

    WPF1 Newsletter (September)

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    Year I · Issue 8 · August 6, 2008 – August 29, 2008
    The Current Improvement Drive is Juan Manuel Fangio.

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    Article of the month - Max Mosley, recently relisted as a Good Article

    Max Rufus Mosley (born April 13, 1940) is president of the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), a non-profit association that represents the interests of motoring organisations and car users worldwide. The FIA is also the governing body for Formula One and other international motorsports.

    Mosley is a former barrister and amateur racing driver, and a founder and co-owner of March Engineering, a successful racing car constructor and Formula One racing team. He looked after legal and commercial issues for the company between 1969 and 1977. In the late 1970s, Mosley became the official legal adviser to the Formula One Constructors Association (FOCA), the body which represents the Formula One teams. In this role he drew up the first version of the Concorde Agreement, which settled a dispute between FOCA and the Fédération Internationale du Sport Automobile (FISA), the governing body of Formula One. Mosley was elected president of FISA in 1991 and became president of the FIA, FISA's parent body, in 1993. Mosley has identified his major achievement as FIA President as being the promotion of the European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro NCAP or Encap), a European car safety performance assessment programme. He has also promoted increased safety and the use of green technologies in motor racing. In 2008, Mosley retained his position after stories about his sex life appeared in the British press.

    Mosley is the son of Sir Oswald Mosley, former leader of the British Union of Fascists (BUF), and Diana Mitford. He was educated in France, Germany and Britain before going on to attend university at Christ Church, Oxford where he graduated with a degree in physics. In his teens and early twenties Mosley was involved with his father's post-war party, the Union Movement (UM). He has said that the association of his surname with fascism stopped him from developing his interest in politics further, although he briefly worked for the Conservative Party in the early 1980s.

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    Championship standings and Grand Prix results
    Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points
    1st United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren 70
    2nd Brazil Felipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari 64
    3rd Finland Kimi Räikkönen Scuderia Ferrari 57
    4th Poland Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 55
    5th Finland Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 43
    6th Germany Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 41
    7th Italy Jarno Trulli Toyota F1 26
    8th Spain Fernando Alonso Renault F1 18
    9th Australia Mark Webber Red Bull Racing 18
    10th Germany Timo Glock Toyota F1 15
    11th Brazil Nelson Piquet, Jr. Renault F1 13
    12th Brazil Rubens Barrichello Honda F1 11
    13th Germany Nico Rosberg WilliamsF1 9
    14th Germany Sebastian Vettel Toro Rosso 8
    15th Japan Kazuki Nakajima WilliamsF1 7
    16th United Kingdom David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 6
    17th United Kingdom Jenson Button Honda F1 3
    18th France Sébastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 2
    Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Points
    1st Italy Scuderia Ferrari 121
    2nd United Kingdom McLaren 113
    3rd Germany BMW Sauber 96
    4th Japan Toyota F1 41
    5th France Renault F1 31
    6th Austria Red Bull 24
    7th United Kingdom WilliamsF1 17
    8th Japan Honda F1 14
    9th Italy Toro Rosso 11
    10th India Force India 0
    11th Japan Super Aguri 0*
    Standings after the 2008 European Grand Prix. See 2008 Formula One season for further season summary and formula1.com or ITV-F1.com (and there is more there for the championship) for complete standings and statistics.
    ^Note 1 : Super Aguri withdrew from the championship on the Wednesday before the Turkish Grand Prix.
    European UnionEuropean Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st Brazil Felipe Massa Italy Scuderia Ferrari 1:35:32.339
    2nd United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren +5.6
    3rd Poland Robert Kubica Germany BMW Sauber +37.3
    4th Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren +39.7
    5th Italy Jarno Trulli Japan Toyota F1 +50.6
    6th Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Scuderia Toro Rosso +52.6
    7th Germany Timo Glock Japan Toyota F1 +67.9
    8th Germany Nico Rosberg United Kingdom WilliamsF1 +71.4
    9th Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber +82.1
    10th France Sébastien Bourdais Italy Scuderia Toro Rosso +89.7
    European Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one Brazil Felipe Massa Italy Scuderia Ferrari 1:38.989
    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren 1:39.199
    Row two Poland Robert Kubica Germany BMW Sauber 1:39.392
    Finland Kimi Räikkönen Italy Scuderia Ferrari 1:39.488
    Row three Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren 1:39.937
    Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:40.142
    Row four Italy Jarno Trulli Japan Toyota F1 1:40.309
    Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 1:40.631
    Row five Germany Nico Rosberg United Kingdom WilliamsF1 1:40.721
    France Sébastien Bourdais Italy Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:40.750
    --Diniz(talk) 18:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

    Comments and editing

    Thanks for your advice. I saw that you've edited the 2008 Formula Superleague season's template and you let some comments like "Fisichella Motor Sport link". How can I do it? Can you help me? Thank you again. P.S.: Sorry 'bout my english.(Edmurbobby (talk) 06:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC))

    Benetton and 1994

    At WT:F1, you said: "For example, Flavio Briatore wrote an open letter to Max Mosley before the Spanish GP criticising the sudden changes to the technical regulations following the San Marino and Monaco GPs, and questioning whether the FIA had the expertise to police the driver aids ban" - what page reference is this as I can integregate that into the current part I'm working on. D.M.N. (talk) 07:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

    Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 11:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
    Thanks for that. I'll see how I get on with the current material (along with references from books that I have). Hopefully, the article *should* be in the mainspace once you get back off holiday (although progress will be slow from Monday as I go back to school to the Sixth Form). D.M.N. (talk) 14:19, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

    Thank you verry much! =D D.M.N. (talk) 07:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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    Pic

    Umm I' a bit worried about the picture being his. Fair enough if there were other pictures from there but I can't see any. Chubbennaitor 17:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

    No. I want it out on the 2nd of October or thereabouts. I've already added the Singapore GP to the NW well would have if the thing would save. Chubbennaitor 17:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

    Allegations in 1994 season

    I've just about finished with the Background section. How do you think it looks? D.M.N. (talk) 20:51, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

    Thanks. ;) At first I had no idea where to link Plank too, so I think I'll follow your suggestion. :) D.M.N. (talk) 06:48, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
    Also, I'm going to move it into the mainspace hopefully Saturday or Sunday so others can add bits etc. ;) D.M.N. (talk) 17:02, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
    BTW, could you possibly scan a copy of the "The Law and Order Crisis" article from your Autocourse? If you can, can you send it to neldav03@hotmail.com. Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 19:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
    Thanks. The article should *hopefully* be in the mainspace tomorrow or Saturday. :-) D.M.N. (talk) 14:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

    Actually, it's in the mainspace now. See my comment here also. You might as well put details from the article straight into the article. Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 20:06, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

    Happy birthday

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    Barnstar

    Cheers very much for that. I can almost say that it's made my day. :) Cheers once again. Cs-wolves (talk) 14:39, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

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    Proposed Cambridge meetup

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    The 1995 Pacific Grand Prix (formally the II Pacific Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on October 22, 1995 at the TI Circuit, Aida, Japan. It was the 15th race of the 1995 Formula One season. The race, contested over 83 laps, was won by Michael Schumacher for the Benetton team after starting from third position. David Coulthard, who started the Grand Prix from pole position, finished second in a Williams car, with Damon Hill third in the other Williams. Schumacher's win confirmed him as 1995 Drivers' Champion as Hill could not pass Schumacher's points total with only two races remaining.

    Hill started the race alongside Coulthard on the front row, amidst pressure from the British media for not being "forceful" enough in battles. Schumacher attempted to drive around the outside of Hill at the first corner, but Hill held Schumacher off as Jean Alesi, driving for Ferrari got past both on the inside line to take second position. As a result, Hill dropped down to third and Schumacher dropped down to fifth behind Gerhard Berger. Schumacher managed to get past Alesi and Hill during the first of three pit stops. This allowed him, on a new set of slick tyres, to close on Coulthard who was on a two-stop strategy. Schumacher opened up a gap of 21 seconds by lapping two seconds faster per lap than Coulthard, so that when his third stop came, he still led the race.

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    Championship standings and Grand Prix results
    Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points
    1st United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren 84
    2nd Brazil Felipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari 77
    3rd Poland Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 64
    4th Finland Kimi Räikkönen Scuderia Ferrari 57
    5th Germany Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 56
    6th Finland Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 51
    7th Spain Fernando Alonso Renault F1 38
    8th Germany Sebastian Vettel Toro Rosso 27
    9th Italy Jarno Trulli Toyota F1 26
    10th Germany Timo Glock Toyota F1 20
    11th Australia Mark Webber Red Bull Racing 20
    12th Germany Nico Rosberg WilliamsF1 17
    13th Brazil Nelson Piquet, Jr. Renault F1 13
    14th Brazil Rubens Barrichello Honda F1 11
    15th Japan Kazuki Nakajima WilliamsF1 9
    16th United Kingdom David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 8
    17th France Sébastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 4
    18th United Kingdom Jenson Button Honda F1 3
    Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Points
    1st United Kingdom McLaren 135
    2nd Italy Scuderia Ferrari 134
    3rd Germany BMW Sauber 120
    4th France Renault F1 51
    5th Japan Toyota F1 46
    6th Italy Toro Rosso 31
    7th Austria Red Bull 28
    8th United Kingdom WilliamsF1 26
    9th Japan Honda F1 14
    10th India Force India 0
    11th Japan Super Aguri 0*
    Standings after the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix. See 2008 Formula One season for further season summary and formula1.com or ITV-F1.com (and there is more there for the championship) for complete standings and statistics.
    ^Note 1 : Super Aguri withdrew from the championship on the Wednesday before the Turkish Grand Prix.
    Belgium Belgian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren 1:22:44.933*
    2nd Brazil Felipe Massa United Kingdom Ferrari +14.461
    3rd Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber +23.844
    4th Spain Fernando Alonso France Renault +28.939
    5th Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Toro Rosso +29.037
    6th Poland Robert Kubica Germany BMW Sauber +29.498
    7th France Sébastien Bourdais Italy Toro Rosso +31.196
    8th Germany Timo Glock Japan Toyota +56.506*
    9th Australia Mark Webber Austria Red Bull +57.237
    10th Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren +1 Lap
    Belgian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren 1:47.338
    Brazil Felipe Massa Italy Ferrari 1:47.678
    Row two Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren 1:47.815
    Finland Kimi Räikkönen Italy Ferrari 1:47.992
    Row three Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 1:48.315
    Spain Fernando Alonso France Renault 1:48.504
    Row four Australia Mark Webber Austria Red Bull 1:48.736
    Poland Robert Kubica Germany BMW Sauber 1:48.763
    Row five France Sébastien Bourdais Italy Toro Rosso 1:48.951
    Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Toro Rosso 1:50.319

    *Hamilton was given a 25 second + to his racing time demoting him to 3rd place gifting Felipe Massa the win 1. McLaren appealed with hard evidence 2. Timo Glock also recieved this penalty for overtaking under the yellow flag dropping him to ninth place out of the points.

    Italy Italian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Toro Rosso 1:26:47.494
    2nd Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren +12.512
    3rd Poland Robert Kubica Germany BMW Sauber +20.471
    4th Spain Fernando Alonso France Renault +23.903
    5th Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber +27.748
    6th Brazil Felipe Massa Italy Ferrari +28.816
    7th United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren +29.912
    8th Australia Mark Webber Austria Red Bull +32.048
    9th Finland Kimi Räikkönen Italy Ferrari +39.468
    10th Brazil Nelson Piquet, Jr. France Renault +54.445
    Italian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Toro Rosso 1:37.555
    Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren 1:37.631
    Row two Australia Mark Webber Austria Red Bull 1:38.117
    France Sébastien Bourdais Italy Toro Rosso 1:38.445
    Row three Germany Nico Rosberg United Kingdom WilliamsF1 1:38.767
    Brazil Felipe Massa Italy Ferrari 1:38.894
    Row four Italy Jarno Trulli Japan Toyota 1:39.152
    Spain Fernando Alonso France Renault 1:39.751
    Row five Germany Timo Glock Japan Toyota 1:39.787
    Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 1:39.906
    Singapore Singapore Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st Spain Fernando Alonso France Renault 1:57:16.304
    2nd Germany Nico Rosberg United Kingdom Williams +2.957
    3rd United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren +5.917
    4th Germany Timo Glock Japan Toyota +8.155
    5th Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Toro Rosso +10.268
    6th Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber +11.101
    7th United Kingdom David Coulthard Austria Red Bull +16.387
    8th Japan Kazuki Nakajima United Kingdom Williams +18.489
    9th United Kingdom Jenson Button Japan Honda +19.885
    10th Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren +26.902
    Singapore Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one Brazil Felipe Massa Italy Ferrari 1:44.801
    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren 1:45.465
    Row two Finland Kimi Räikkönen Italy Ferrari 1:45.617
    Poland Robert Kubica Germany BMW Sauber 1:45.779
    Row three Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren 1:45.873
    Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 1:45.964*
    Row four Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Toro Rosso 1:46.244
    Germany Timo Glock Japan Toyota 1:46.328
    Row five Germany Nico Rosberg United Kingdom WilliamsF1 1:46.611
    Japan Kazuki Nakajima United Kingdom WilliamsF1 1:47.547
    --Diniz(talk) 19:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

    Can you help?

    There's a new editor working on the Joe Kelly artice - he's actually Kelly's son. He asked me if I could help him upload some images, which he's apparently already uploaded to Commons, but he doesn't know how to move on from there. I'm no expert and I can't really offer any help to him, but I know you're more familiar with these things. Any chance of giving him a hand? He's at User talk:Ronankelly. Cheers! Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

    I knew you were the right person, thanks a lot, it's much appreciated :o) Bretonbanquet (talk) 19:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

    Archive URLs

    No problem, the archive url & date fields can be commented out when the site is up-and-running again fully. Most big websites are already available on the Wayback Machine (www.archive.org) but when I add a URL to an article, I'll put into archive.org as a search and it'll either show that it's already archived or add it to the list to be archived. That way it's always available for future use in case a site disappears or is revamped. AlexJ (talk) 18:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

    Joe Kelly

    hi, Diniz Please help, I am trying to upload photos of my dad, Joe Kelly Gp driver but am finding it hard. I uploaded some to commons but not able to get them to his page.

    Regards Red Kelly —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronankelly (talkcontribs) 16:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

    Hi again, thanks for your reply, yes they are the pics, that I've been trying to upload all day. what am I doing wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronankelly (talkcontribs) 16:42, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

    Can you show me what I did wrong, Ps Thank you very much. Red —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronankelly (talkcontribs) 17:45, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

    Thanks for your help, I have got the hang of it now.

    Ronankelly (talk) 21:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)ronankelly

    It looks great! It's amazing what a difference a few photos make :o) Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:50, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

    A little help

    What is the call uploading images from Emil Rensing from flickr? I've noticed a discussion on commons about authenticity of this user's images, and yet I've found quite a few of his images there. I noticed a new set of images for Chinese GP and wasn't sure if I should upload it. Neither of the images have valid EXIF data. Sleaves talk 12:33, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

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