1365:) it refers to Gross register tonnage - measure which hasn't been in use since the 1980's (long before these ships were built). I suspect the figures quoted in Janes are different because of the use of full load displacement compared to standard. I would suggest you ignore the official Japanese sources as they are plainly wrong and only use the Janes figures in the articles. Certainly you should not state a displacement in GT
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