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Eastern Chalukyan provinces (first to convert from Kannada to Telugu, that is why Adikavi Nannayya and every other poet had kannada influence) to spread Telugu in the Western Chalukyan provinces (Lembulawada). If you speak Telugu, your ancestors may have immigrated from somewhere or you may have learned Telugu. Even lately Viswanatha Satyanarayana traveled to Karimnagar to establish the first Telugu department in the Govt college over there because there was no Telugu medium. Rayaprolu Subbarao travelled to Hyderabad to establish Telugu department at Osmania. His cousin established it in Nizam College. Those are the facts, and you have to go along. I extend the friendship to you, it is up to you. We are all Telugus now and our history was not created during the 60-90 year communal or regional political events that took place, starting from the Andhra Mahasabhas in Hyd State that were originally established by Telugu people of Madras State to educate the Telugu people in Nizam state about the atrocities of Nizam, which slowly created regionalism and fascism in that region and a bane and headache to the same people who taught them to revolt. Unfortunate events in history.
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Malliya Rchana belonged to Lembulawada of Karimnagar. Stop calling it Vemulawada, its original name was Lembulawada. The original and only Vemulawada is in East Godavari where are poets are associated with originally under Eastern Chalukyas. Unlike you I have kept both our theories but you have come up with another fooling around and removed my authentic references. STOP vandalizing pages and keeping your references of Thesis of people and removing authentic information from journals such as The Indian Antiquary.
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Antiquary) and only removed his unreferenced personal theories but he has been removing all my referenced info to put forth only his theories. Now he undid my content again and call it that one has to stick to the old style. This fellow creates duplicate pages and vandalizes pages to put forth his theories. He is not able to bear if I keep the theories in chronological order and removes the old theories which do not attribute the work or the poet to his homeplace. Unlike him I am trying to keep both theories but he keeps the newer theories and adds his personal theories as well. What do you advise? I am going to wait for your advise. Thanks
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Venginadu. You are not able to bear the fact that Bheemakavi or Rechana belong to after Adikavi Nannayya. Palakuriki of Rayalaseema also wrote in more antique Telugu style than Adikavi Nannayya, that does not make him older than Adikavi. We could probably research and write in more older style, that will not make us older than Adikavi Nannayya. Because people learn and write in Shakespearean dramatic language of hundreds of years old, they do not become antique writings than some contemporary writers. STOP vandalizing pages and keeping your references of Thesis of people and removing authentic information from journals such as The Indian Antiquary.
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the advent of regionalism. And many more of your references do not even have linkage, you just have book shop links. You have to learn respecting the authors that you keep quoting. You are also referring of my
Lembulawada as it is as a negative remark, you do not like the history as it is. Do not repeat the same sentences twice on my talk page every time you write your theories.
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Malliya Rechana article and created your own personal theory about his life which is not even present in your fake references. If you are true you would have not removed my references and content. Mend yourself. You fix it or I will fix it. Add the older theory prior to your politically motivated theories.
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shameless creatures and their offspring keep quoting from the books of the same so-called colonials again and again. Srikrishnadevaraya was of Tulu speaking, yet he was so mesmerized by the Telugu poets that he officially took to Telugu as the official language. That is what happened with
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Abrahmad111, Vaduga actually is a word for the Kamma Telugu people in Tamil Nadu. So you mean to say that
Vanchayya was Renchi or Recha and he was a Kamma from Madras Presidency. Do not know what you are trying to prove with this illogical postings of yours trying to confuse the readers. I said there
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When a SCHOLAR evaluates something he does not consider just one piece of info(like say archaic Telugu).The thesis above talks only 2 points. There are much more evidences(Pampa and
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Abrahmad111, I have both the theories. Your cock and bull stories or the theory of Jayanti Pantulu's theory are much newer than the well established and prestigious The Indian Antiquary theory. All your references are based on individual thesis or books written in debating style. You are not able to
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Abrahmad111, you are the one who vandalized and created duplicate pages and you blame me. Stop removing older theories and references and putting some politically motivated newly created theories. I have given ample evidence. Don't fool around and vandalize content. If you like to add something, add
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Abrahmad111, you should just marry all your family to seemandhra people, then you will not have to change the history with your biased ways. Your family shall be proud of the unified culture and language and the history. History of Telugu people did not begin in the last 100 yrs. Local, Non-local,
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That is why the oldest Telugu is found elsewhere such as Addanki and Renadu. Rayalaseema people speak much better Telugu. Arundhati Roy, Jhampa Lahari, Slaman Rushdie etc so many Indian authors write better English than the British. Kannada people take pride in Pampa and do not refrain from saying
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I know that the spoken language of Nizam region was Kannada and partly Gondi. That is where the word Soyi comes from. You fellows have even blamed others for your own fault of not using the word. At one time India had 6000 odd languages plus dialects. Telugu took over Savara, Yanadi, Gondi, Koya,
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Abrahmad111, Kavijanasrayam is not the earliest Telugu work. It was originally considered as from between 11th and 13th centuries and later as 10th and 11th centuries. There are much earlier ones such as Adikavi Nannayya's works (whether you agree or not) and Addanki Taravoju and Kadapa works. You
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Weren't you taught that Seemandhra people are colonials etc during the fake movt. Why do you blame others? No real Gurus have to be violent like your fake Gurus such as "so-called profs of a fake movt." who taught some people to break the statues of personalities like Arudra, Brown etc, yet these
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Abrahmad111, you are the one who vandalized and created duplicate pages and you blame me. Wonderful. Stop removing older theories and references and putting some politically motivated newly created theories. I have given ample evidence. Don't fool around and vandalize content. If you like to add
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Hi, I have a question. Abrahmad111 is constantly fooling and undoing and removing much older and antique (The Indian Antiquary) research references in order to attribute a poet to his region rather than sticking to the history. I have kept his references (which are mostly a thesis and individual
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How is this going to alter the course of the article's debate. I have all the views unlike you trying to force your views. Did CP.Brown also say he was from near Karimnagar. I have corrected the article to have all the views and all the debates but you have only one view, that is yours.
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No one realized anything, it is the same prior to the Vadukabhasha udhyamam which did not affect Nizam region and Ceded regions as much as it affected the Circars. If they realized why do you fellows blame others that they demeaned your language. Double standard of yours.
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other MATERIAL evidences like the above and concluded in 1986,1989 respectively.Hard Copy of 'Samagra Andhra Sahityam' by Arudra has confirmed that Malliya Rechana is 10th century poet and has written Arudra.These are the other evidences considered by SAHITYA ACADEMY.
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