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Divine Light headquarters in Denver, a spokesmän described the "removal" of the guru as "ridiculous" and said that his mother, during a recent United States visit, tried to gain control of the mission here but "lived exactly the life-style of her son." Maharaj Ji, the spokesman said, is an his way to India.
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gives a false impression of the reason why it had to go. It wasn't the website that was "vulnerable" it was the people who might log onto it. And it wasn't me who found the problem, it was Trend Micro
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Fair enough, and thanks for your input, I don't always have as much access to documentation as
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