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having this discussion if the page wasn't up for deletion/ If you look at that conversation, they are all Keeps and Strong keeps. The originator of the deletion has even changed their opinion to Keep and not Delete. This is an obvious snowball at this point. Why belabor the obvious? It is wasting all of our time that we could be putting to good use.
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I have read them and you couldn't be more wrong. I have made no threats and have no conflict of interest. This is wasting everyone's time I (like you) want accuracy. If you want to see bad form, look at some of the posts in the deletion thread. Some of the editors are being unhelpful. it is all there
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I am not the one 'edit warring' I have correct information. The other editors are warring they need to be issued the warning. Isn't that the purpose? Putting plain true facts out there? I think editors working in concert together is shameful. We are supposed to work together right? I don't know the
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You came very close to violating 3RR, which is why you were warned. Not to mention you should not have been undoing other users' edits anyway, due to your conflict of interest. Also, I believe you misinterpreted my comment; I was not suggesting your edits were vandalism. Finally, I am again confused
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The edit is minor and not in the least controversial. It is a fact. I also think if "edit warring" is going on it is universal. I want only plain & concise facts. Doesn't everyone? I am not a even a Major Contributor to the article as you can plainly see. I have to move along for the moment, but
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subject well enough that I cant edit this page with plain simple substantiated facts. Like you said NeilN the name controversy is "iffy". It is incorrect. A 3 year old article (the only one on the internet) is not substantial. There are hundreds of other articles in the direction of what is correct.
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I have no conflict of interest. I am more than qualified to edit any page. It would seem wise to me for all editors to err on the side of caution. ie- Don't use a very flimsy, iffy and old article to change a page. A simple internet search will yield you hundreds of current articles. We wouldn't be
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content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about
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linked above. I would strongly suggest reading it immediately. You already have at least three reverts on the article within a 24hr period, and are definitely edit-warring. No other editor has gotten close to warring, so they did not receive the warning. When you say "I think editors working in
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I did not violate 3RR. Don't even suggest vandalism. What has been done to this page with false accusations and unmerited removal requests is ridiculous. You, yourself said you would vote to keep. Look at the big picture and look for a pattern under RRF on the Removal edit page. Cheers
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As you have stated that you personally know the subject, that is most certainly a conflict of interest. Also I'm confused as to why you're talking about the AfD, as that has no bearing on the conversation at all; I would vote to keep the article as well.
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A piece of (unsolicited) advice: If you want something changed, argue content, not the behavior of other editors. That will rarely get you to your goal. Look at the current name discussion on the talk page. Focused on content and moving ahead smoothly.
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I have edited here in the past under different user names. I take offence to your allegations. I am just getting started up again. I would say you are the one that is propelling this in the wrong direction. I will not be called an SPA
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You have not disclosed any of your other accounts. Judging by your account creation time and user contributions (all the information that is presented), you very closely fit the definition of a
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As per your own admission, you appear to have a conflict of interest on this article and a close connection to the subject. Therefore I would heavily advise against directly editing it.
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yes, lets move ahead smoothly- Don't doubt my veracity. I read them. I would say an acquaintance you have met is not the same as knowing and spending time with someone ie Family
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Not well enough that I cant edit a simple page. As for the article we are of one mind then. This is a big waste of all of our time. Facts are only useful when they are correct
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by accusing other editors of having a "vendetta". Making such accusations without any actual evidence is simply not conducive to a good editing environment on Knowledge.
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or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already excited about Knowledge, you might want to consider being "
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Undoing other user's (non-vandalism) edits is not minor, but rather by definition controversial. It is also clear by your comment that you still have not read
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and simply want it to comply with Knowledge policies and contain the best information. Finally, I would suggest you also read the guidelines on
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I would dispute that. Looking at the date that your account was created, as well as your contributions (the entirety of which center around
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or have permission to release the photo under a free license. Once uploaded, let me know and I'll help you get it into the article. --
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as to why you are bringing up the AfD again. I did not participate in that discussion and it has no bearing on the matter at hand.
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states, you shouldn't make controversial edits to the article, of which the ones you made in which you edit warred certainly were.
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You are absolutely wrong. But, I wont hold it against you. I have been wrong before. I hope we work together in the future
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If you really have been an editor in the past, you should know by now how to use colons, and you really ought to read
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I know what you are insinuating and you really ought to observe decorum. Your input is not useful.
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that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by
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rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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Lastly... I have no COI. You should have a look at the Afd though. Informative reading. Cheers
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The fact that you continue to say that after already admitting to a personal connection with
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I was insinuating that you need to learn how to use colons, and you ought to read
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In addition to your edit-warring, admitted conflict of interest, and potential
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Perhaps you should read it. Because it is exactly what you NOT are doing.
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and edit warring on that page solidifies the fact that you have not read
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concert together is shameful." I repudiate that as an assumption of
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