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847:. Yes, the paper was founded after the 2014 protests, and in many ways in response to the increasing censorship that was seen in response to the protests. That is definitely important to its history. But that is not the same as being founded with one of its primary aims to cover the pro-democracy movement, which is how the language you restored to the lead portrays it. What I find in reviewing the sources are numerous references to its desire to be an independent alternative to the SCMP, with many sources now describing it as the last remaining independent alternative new outlet, e.g.,
1579:, the other editor has responded to my talk page comment on the article, and I think it would be preferential for us to be able to continue our discussion there, rather than a block for either of us. Blocks are supposed to be preventative rather than punitive. (I also only made 3 reverts after my initial copyedit, but I don't think that is particularly important because I am requesting for both me and Knowitall369 to be unblocked so that we can continue to discuss on the talk page.) –
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items that you claim are undue --- make targeted deletions of what you claim is undue and explain yourself. You are editwarring, and gaslighting me about it. You cannot possibly be serious in claiming that a comment you made about a different set of edits on July 11 is a permanent explanation for your vandalizing the entry. If you want participating in a discussion, I'd welcome it. Start by discussing.
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and I be unblocked so that we can continue our discussion on the article's talk page. Blocks are supposed to be preventative rather than punitive, and I believe we can work out the issues on the article's talk page (hence why I initially deleted my 3RR report before Bbb23 restored it). I also did not
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The content you added is not what the sources actually say, though. Phrases such as "such as" and "as well as reporting on breaking news" cannot be ignored without distorting the meaning. As for the second source, you even say that it "suggests a connection without directly saying it", which would be
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thank you for your response. None of the content that I added has been disputed on the talk page as undue. If it is your claim that the content is undue, make that claim on the talk page. Or perhaps, instead of wiping away everything --- grammatical corrections, additional sources, new information,
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You are incorrect on this as with many other topics you seem to engage in. The edit showing Kamala Harris confirmed as a "Border Czar" was cited with a public record official document housed in the united states congress on permanent record. Please refrain from removing this again. I will support
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Secondly, my apologies for the back and forth when it comes to editing that portion of the article, and my apologies if any of my comments came across as rude. That is definitely not my intention and I merely want to organize the article and keep it unbiased. Talk of the critism of the character is
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I knew Scott Adams was a right winger in real life, but really liked the strip focused on the universal ironies of bureaucracies. I get a Sunday-only USA Today paper for state and local news but also for access to the chain's nationwide publications. I read just the
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since its release and considered it to be one of the best horror films of the 2010s." If you do not agree with the sources or the text, you should try to change them or discuss before removing them completely, without a valid reason (as this is not even a formatting/style
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For starters, my account was newly created last night, and prior to that I had only made 2 edits to the article in question (without an account/anonymously). I decided to make an account so I could be more easily contacted to discuss editing and such!
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presented a government document clearly stating Kamala Harris as a Border Czar. That's clear, official information from a reliable source. I would have placed these comments on the admin discussion page but it was locked. Thanks for reading my post.
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edited the article more in line with my original draft and you reverted their edit on account of being "not how the sources describe him." Respectfully, I think that this is largely not true and his edits were fairly minor and hardly excessive.
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So, I noticed that you deleted the edit on Erin Torpey's page. I checked her IMDB page and there are no more acting credits after 2015. By that logic, if an actor's filmography ends at a certain year, doesn't that mean they are retired?
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