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89:? Are you kidding me?) In addition, the entire article is America-centric, without admitting it. And on top of everything else, the article has a name that almost nobody will come to Knowledge and search for in the first place. As this AfD is certain to get a number of blind "keep" votes from those with a strong personal interest in the page's survival, I strongly urge the closing admin to examine the article itself and the discussion here; please don't just count votes on this one. -- 314:, today they printed an article about Audrey Hepburn and how there's a big trend these days with fashion and pop culture emulating her (including the current GAP ad campaign built up around her). As a part of that, the article quoted someone in the local fashion industry as saying that Audrey's big right now because there is a big 50s revival going on. It just brings home the point that it's pretty easy to say that there's a particular pop-culture movement on at any time. 267:. This article is really a list, ad doesn't seem like a particularly bad idea for one either. Nom is right that the list doesn't prove there is a "movement" or anything, and with the current title there are OR issues, but as a list, it just needs some basic editing. I volunteer to edit the list down to very clear examples if it is kept (whether or not it is moved). 332:. It would obviously be preferable to have citations to some scholarly sources. It seems entirely correct however to suggest that the current "article" is really a list, and if kept it needs to be either massively overhauled or moved to an alternative title, with a number of the examples either cited or deleted. -- 76:
violation; there is no inherent evidence that society is in the midst of any "1980s retro movement" whatsoever, nor does the article even attempt to assert this as a fact. (There's been a cite tag on the first sentence of the article since the end of the first AfD; we're still waiting for that cite.)
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but just barely. I personally believe 80s retro is a definite trend, and a quick Google search for "1980s retro" suggests I'm not alone in that perception. As those proposing deletion have (rightly) pointed to the lack of citations, I will mention that one of the sources turned up by that brief
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section on the 2006 year article, aren't they original research. That is all I have to say. This is not a personal attack! All of the things on this article have had the creditablity of being aired on television or a movie, just like a TV show's trivia or a year in fiction section.
286:. Unverifiable matter of opinion and, in a way, original research. I think it would be pretty easy to compile a list of things that make it look like there's currently a "retro movement" for any decade. Really, how can there not be a 70s retro movement 349:
list of examples and a category for other examples would go a long way toward improving this. But, per the nomination, if no one has cleaned it up since the last AfD, why would they do so now? So, unless someone comes forward and either
345:. My position is similar to that on the deletion of the 1970s retro movement, there could probably be a good article on this topic, but this isn't the one. Some verifiable prose on the movement in general coupled with a 107: 65: 178: 195:- cramed to the shoulder-pads with gratuitous, cherry-picked original research. Impossible to even begin to cover it here - just see for yourself.-- 424: 408: 392: 372: 358: 336: 318: 302: 278: 247: 231: 219: 199: 185: 164: 142: 118: 93: 52: 215:
and I think it is safe to say that if it didn't get fixed after the last AfD the chances it will get fixed in the future are slim.--
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Most of the single-line "events" listed in the article are uncited, and many of them strain credulity past the breaking point (
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improves this article or volunteers to do so in a reasonable amount of time, I think Knowledge will be better off without it.
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Not sure how good a source it is but the site does exist - there was a problem with the link, which I have now fixed.--
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sections on pages of television or movie articles up for deletion, they seem like Original Research. Or what about the
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
151:: sorry for my previous statements Aaron...however if u charge this for Original research then why aren't the 111: 103: 58: 174: 138:
surely don't get out much and probrobly spend all day deleting good articles on wikipedia. Good day! (
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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out on the road plugging his new work (or would that be the current 60s retro movement?).
268: 244: 161: 139: 421: 389: 366:- This article can easily be cited. A simple google search reveals a number of sources 291: 243:- above vote from 63.64.30.2 belongs to me. Don't know why it dropped the login.... -- 216: 315: 299: 212: 385: 369: 73: 384:, like a dead link to a non-existant tripod site? Sorry, that doesn't quite meet 330: 208: 355: 295: 196: 182: 115: 90: 367: 85:? In what ways? Because they're both an hour long and both are/were on 64:
This article was first nominated for deletion in June, and the AfD was
420:, it's easier to mull over external info that I can actually see...-- 438:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
227:, with the note that this is better handled by a category. -- 310:: As embarrassed as I am to admit that I was "reading" the 69: 108:
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39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 448:). No further edits should be made to this page. 110:, which is everything you never wanted in the 8: 261:List of 1980s nostalgia in popular culture 128:: The 1980s Retro Movement is part of the 294:having recently released a new album and 72:). Basically, the article is a gigantic 7: 329:search included a BBC News article 24: 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 337:20:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC) 319:23:16, 29 September 2006 (UTC) 303:19:45, 29 September 2006 (UTC) 279:19:41, 29 September 2006 (UTC) 248:19:35, 29 September 2006 (UTC) 232:19:34, 29 September 2006 (UTC) 220:18:48, 29 September 2006 (UTC) 200:18:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC) 186:18:37, 29 September 2006 (UTC) 165:23:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC) 143:18:22, 29 September 2006 (UTC) 119:19:03, 29 September 2006 (UTC) 94:18:37, 29 September 2006 (UTC) 66:closed as a "keep but cleanup" 1: 425:18:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC) 409:17:36, 3 October 2006 (UTC) 393:16:23, 3 October 2006 (UTC) 373:19:33, 2 October 2006 (UTC) 359:18:39, 1 October 2006 (UTC) 53:15:15, 7 October 2006 (UTC) 465: 441:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 106:at the same time, see 102:: I'm also nominating 171:Note to closing admin 114:article and less! -- 112:1980s retro movement 104:1970s retro movement 79:Desperate Housewives 59:1980s retro movement 312:Vancouver Province 177:is also currently 81:is reminiscent of 406:Matthew Humphreys 334:Matthew Humphreys 213:original research 456: 443: 290:, what with the 276: 175:Twenty Year Rule 131:Twenty Year Rule 34: 464: 463: 459: 458: 457: 455: 454: 453: 452: 446:deletion review 439: 272: 157:2006 in fiction 62: 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 462: 460: 451: 450: 434: 433: 432: 431: 430: 429: 428: 427: 412: 411: 396: 395: 376: 375: 361: 339: 323: 322: 321: 292:New York Dolls 281: 253: 252: 251: 250: 235: 234: 222: 207:as article is 202: 190: 189: 188: 168: 136:boomerang fads 122: 121: 61: 56: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 461: 449: 447: 442: 436: 435: 426: 423: 419: 416: 415: 414: 413: 410: 407: 403: 400: 399: 398: 397: 394: 391: 387: 383: 380: 379: 378: 377: 374: 371: 368: 365: 362: 360: 357: 353: 348: 344: 340: 338: 335: 331: 327: 324: 320: 317: 313: 309: 306: 305: 304: 301: 297: 293: 289: 285: 282: 280: 277: 275: 270: 266: 262: 258: 255: 254: 249: 246: 242: 239: 238: 237: 236: 233: 230: 226: 223: 221: 218: 214: 210: 206: 203: 201: 198: 194: 191: 187: 184: 180: 176: 172: 169: 166: 163: 158: 154: 150: 147: 146: 144: 141: 137: 133: 132: 127: 124: 123: 120: 117: 113: 109: 105: 101: 98: 97: 96: 95: 92: 88: 84: 80: 75: 71: 67: 60: 57: 55: 54: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 440: 437: 417: 401: 381: 363: 351: 346: 342: 325: 311: 307: 287: 283: 273: 264: 256: 240: 224: 204: 192: 170: 156: 152: 148: 129: 125: 99: 63: 46:no consensus 45: 43: 31: 28: 364:Strong Keep 343:Weak Delete 296:Paul Simon 245:Dennisthe2 229:63.64.30.2 209:unverified 179:up for AfD 162:Tigerghost 140:Tigerghost 422:Isotope23 390:Isotope23 308:Follow up 217:Isotope23 402:Response 316:Agent 86 300:Agent 86 70:see diff 382:Comment 370:Chubdub 352:greatly 347:shorter 241:Comment 225:Abstain 149:Comment 83:Dynasty 50:W.marsh 418:Thanks 284:Delete 205:Delete 193:Delete 153:trivia 386:WP:RS 356:Cool3 274:juice 269:Mango 197:Nydas 183:Aaron 116:Aaron 91:Aaron 74:WP:OR 16:< 326:Keep 265:keep 257:Move 181:. -- 126:KEEP 100:Note 388:.-- 288:now 263:or 259:to 87:ABC 211:, 173:: 145:) 48:. 341:' 167:) 160:(

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
W.marsh
15:15, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
1980s retro movement
closed as a "keep but cleanup"
see diff
WP:OR
Desperate Housewives
Dynasty
ABC
Aaron
18:37, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
1970s retro movement
Knowledge:Articles for deletion/1970s retro movement
1980s retro movement
Aaron
19:03, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Twenty Year Rule
boomerang fads
Tigerghost
18:22, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Tigerghost
23:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Twenty Year Rule
up for AfD
Aaron
18:37, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Nydas
18:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

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