501:. In this case, the parent article is the LoE, wherein none of my nominated articles, as 'split', though I do not see their writings as splittings, made any credible assertion of notability to justify the plot lengths which would, under your thinking, be used as the reason for a split. So with no notability for almost all of these (I did withdraw my nomination of one), all of these should go back to the LoE. A given episode can then be split out properly if there exists proof that that episode has independent, not inherited, notability, since WP doesn't do Inherited Notability.
659:. This was overly hasty and misguided. Clearly, these articles need improvement rather than deletion. It's a shame the nominator did not try to improve this article and others like it by fixing it instead of trying to delete it. There is no time limit. And this mass listing of long standing article for deletion has in no way made it easy for the rescuers to meet the artificial time limit imposed by taking them to AFD. Kudos to the rescuers.
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unless you plan to delete all the other Mash episode articles. The article is atrocious, but potential exists for it to be improved and there are thousands of articles on TV show episodes. Now, if you think they're all a hopeless case, then that's a different argument. This is not an article of any
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There is excellent commentary and criticism for each episode in the guides, retyping the quotes is slow and tedious. If your clever you can get Google to spit up the text for a quote to cut and paste, and won't have to retype it. The DVD set has commentary too and are at my library, but even more
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