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California Case No. CV 07-06295 JFW (Ex), entitled AMIR CYRUS AHANCHIAN, an individual, Plaintiff, vs. XENON PICTURES, INC., a California corporation; CKRUSH, INC., a Delaware corporation; SAM MACCARONE, an individual; PRESTON LACY, an individual; and DOES 1 through 10, inclusive, Defendants, shall be and is hereby DISMISSED IN ITS ENTIRETY, WITH PREJUDICE. (Made JS-6. Case Terminated.) (jp) (Entered: 01/12/2011)
60:. Both discussions have clearly found consensus that this person and this case have not been shown to meet our notability guidelines, and as such, there is consensus to delete. However, I rarely decline good-faith requests for draftspace work, and in this case there is a possibility that one notable article may be rescued where two cannot; hence, I'm draftifying. I am going to 64:
a little, and require that, given the clear consensus in the AfDs, a) this article/these articles only be recreated via AfC, b) these discussions be linked in a way that the AfC reviewer will read them, and c) some source material be included that is new, substantive, reliable, and independent of the
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And the fact that it was listed as a "top ten copyright case for November 2010"? That's not much of a distinction. I'm open to seeing some numbers, but I'm guessing of the twelve courts of appeal (1st-11th circuits plus federal circuit in the federal system; virtually none in the state systems) that
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By the way: looking at the subsequent history of the case (Amir Cyrus Ahanchian v. Xenon Pictures Inc et al, no. 2:07-cv-06295-JFW-E, C.D. Cal. Jan 12, 2011)) on PACER, it was settled and voluntarily dismissed by the parties, so it didn't go on to set any kind of precedent. Here's a docket extract:
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While I don't know of any Knowledge policy against draftifying this, I strongly recommend against it; it's just going to be a waste of time. This is simply not a notable case, and it's never going to be accepted out of draft by anyone who understands the subject matter. If it somehow slips through,
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The case stands for the unremarkable proposition, not very different from those present in a number of cases, that when, due to multiple extenuating circumstances, an attorney requests a one-week extension to file a paper from the other party, the other party should be a good guy and allow it; and
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The case is notable due to the case laws which resulted from it. The 'Good Cause' law which resulted from the case has been cited over 480 times in Federal Court Cases in the last decade, that's an average of 4x per month. There are also independent reliable sources which have published in depth
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01/12/2011 157 ORDER by Judge John F. Walter. The court, having reviewed the Stipulation to Dismissal of Action With Prejudice 156 in the above-captioned action made by all parties, and finding good cause, that the above captioned action, United States District Court for the Central District of
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established that four-factor legal test? If you would actually read the case, you would see that that standard was established in previous cases and the Ninth Circuit was just applying it to the particular details of Ahanchian's case. (It's also not a law, but rather a
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analysis of the case. Citations for some of these have now been added to the article. The reason they are difficult to find is because of the huge number of sources about other cases which refer to the case laws created from the Ahanchian v Xenox case.
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Yes, there are many citations of the case, because the case laws which resulted from it are so important. In-depth summaries and analysis can also be found. Please give me a chance to edit this article and include them. Examples are
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even if he's a jerk and doesn't, the judge shouldn't dismiss the case for the late filing. This is an incredibly routine case. If it had been an affirmance rather than a reversal, I doubt it would even have merited an opinion.
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I'd really encourage the creating editor to move along to an area that with which they are more familiar, and where they can more accurately assess the notability of the topics they're writing about.
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01/10/2011 156 STIPULATION to Dismiss Case pursuant to settlement agreement reached filed by plaintiff Amir Cyrus Ahanchian. (Attachments: # 1 Proposed Order)(Daar, Jeffery) (Entered: 01/10/2011)
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I would like to move the case back to draftify so that I can do more work on it, I understand what has been said above and would like to work on the article to establish notability.
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hear copyright appeals, there are probably only twenty or so copyright cases each month. "Top ten in month foo" is not all that impressive, in context.
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If and when it was written up significantly (not merely cited to) in, for example, law review articles, I would likely change my tune.
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for the unremarkable proposition that "A district court's decision as to a Rule 6(b) motion is reviewed for an abuse of discretion."
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maybe by being reviewed by someone unfamiliar with law, it will end back up at AFD again. There's just nothing in here notable.
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It has been written up significantly in law review articles, I have posted the links above, and they are in the article too.
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The article talks about a purported "Good Cause Law of Civility" that the case establishes, but there is no such thing. As
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12/28/2010 155 NOTICE of Settlement filed by plaintiff Amir Cyrus Ahanchian. (Daar, Jeffery) (Entered: 12/28/2010)
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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380 (1993)) for the pre-existing factors; and that case in turn goes back to another case,
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Pioneer Investment Services Co. v. Brunswick Associates Ltd. Partnership
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seems to think it did. A casual look at the case shows that
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It doesn't appear to have been. Of the links you posted:
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