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It is different because of article size and amount of Afd's? Not much real difference here in terms of topics. The only real difference I can see bewteen the two is one is accuses a country the other accuses a religion. Somehow it is OK to accuse a country of apartheid but not a
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As I said in the other discussion, "Israeli apartheid" gets over 210,000 ghits; it is a widely used term in discussions of Israeli treatment of Arab populations. Whether you agree with the comparison with South Africa or not, there are definitely people using the term.
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is entirely one-sided (despite the fig-leaf inclusion of "allegations" in its name). And yes, I think the fact that this article has already survived five nominations is relevant: how many bites at the apple are appropriate? —
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It's not a question of whether it's "OK" to accuse a country or a religion of apartheid. I think the question is whether there's enough "meat" to warrant its continued existence as a separate article. Looking at
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of this nomination. As it is, the article has merit, and my understadning is that one is not supposed to argue along the basis of whether or not other articles ought to be deleted. --
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Which of the criteria for deletion is being alleged to apply here? Sefringle appears to have some form, as I see last month he proposed deletion of "Zionism and RAcism allegations"
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is roughly one-fifth the size of this article, it doesn't present the range of views that this article does, and it hasn't already survived
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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I disagree with your assertion that the two articles are analogous; I think they're quite different.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Ten Pound Hammer
19:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Allegations of Israeli apartheid
Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid
Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (2nd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (4th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (5th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (6th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (7th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (8th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (Fourth nomination)
Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (fifth nomination)
Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (second nomination)
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