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681:, to quote its Wiki article. That article is something that stands despite its publisher, rather than because of it. At best such articles represent theft from the authors, at worst they allow stuff which would not survive peer review to get an undue imprimatur. Doesnt it strike you as odd that all the sourcing for this is bad? 318:
It sounds like the main concern here is notability. Although the majority of the sources are Chinese state-run publications, there is one instance of a prominent Western publication, Popular Mechanics, being referenced. That source's presence alone is enough, at minimum, to prevent this article from
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authored by an Australian university professor who claims to have visited China and seen this new transportation system in person. The best case scenario for you at this point is that no consensus will be reached, in which case the article stays just as it would if the result becomes "keep". Please
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Scientific Research Publishing (SCIRP) is an academic publisher of presumably peer-reviewed open-access electronic journals, conference proceedings, and scientific anthologies of questionable quality. Although it has an address in southern California, in reality it is a "Chinese
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Follow-up: I see that in the previous AfD discussion from two years ago linked above (the result of which was "keep"), I also participated and gave a very similar reason for keeping it as my reason in this discussion. I will bring up the additional point that, per WP:Notability,
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Being informed of a discussion with neutral language is not canvassing. Using that argument is the equivalent of throwing rocks because you have no bullets left. There are five "keeps" now in this discussion compared to your one "delete". You've lost; make peace with it.
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Again, a source, even if an overlapping source (with other issues.) Note that both are centered not on this system, but on Newman’s concept of “trackless tram”; this is not necessarily evidence for a separate article. Notice also that it is sourced to SCIRP
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This has nothing to do with anything you mention here. The project is not “courageous”, it does not matter where it was made, or where it might be used. It’s a blip, and one based on COI sources. It is worth a footnote, not an article.
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That is, in fact, the first piece of sourcing since the article was created that might justify a stand-alone article. The idea that a regurgitated press release in PM might is ludicrous; there are can-openers that meet that standard.
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This article has never really progressed beyond a glorified press release. Has the idea itself progressed beyond a demonstration? Qwirkle (talk) 13:43, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
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Even, if this concept is not perceived to be the answer to the United States' traffic jams, there is no need to erase this courageous project from history. Please
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nom fails to tell us which policy or guideline this article meets for inclusion and . The sources in the article still take it over the minimum threshold for
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determine very carefully before you make your next reply whether it's going to be a valuable use of our time and your time to continue this discussion.
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Next, note that bare notability, assuming this meets that for arguments sake, does not in itself justify a separate article.
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Do you see any independent sourcing, not based on press releases on this, in the article or elsewhere?
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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predatory open access publisher of using email spam to solicit papers for submission.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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on basis of sources and what is mentioned by Phil Bridger.
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The Autonomous Rail Rapid Transit is now running in circles
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So, based on company press releases, and a piece from a
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to that by the article’s creator as well, as you were
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