Knowledge (XXG)

:Articles for deletion/Beersheva bus station shooting (2nd nomination) - Knowledge (XXG)

Source 📝

630:
of law. In Israel it is used more loosely, in this instance, the Israeli press used it to describe a spontaneous attack on an individual who was presumed (because of his skin color,) to be the perpetrator of a terrorist attack and was killed at the scene by bystanders who mistook him for a terrorist. But it is also used for sudden street violence that flares in places where young men hang out and someone gets beaten up. It would be misleading to rename this terrorist attack and mob attack on a misidentified victim as a "lynching" in an English-language encyclopedia.
629:
that "lynch", "lynching," have a peculiar meaning in Israel. In English-speaking countries these words describe a prearranged, premeditated extrajudicial killing by a group, that is, a group that assembles for the purpose of killing a particular individual, locates him, and kills him without benefit
491:
No, you provided a number of news sources, which by your own argument are primary and do not establish notability, the one secondary source is about the lynching. I maintain an article on the shooting fails WP:NOTNEWS, though I agree an article on the lynching would be appropriate.
544:
In different circumstances (articles close to an event, 30 years old). If you actually read what you just linked to, you will see that in some circumstances NEWSORG coverage is primary, and in others secondary. And the documentary movie is quite obviously not a
606:, if you have seen the pictures of that lynching/torure, it was extremely ugly, and many, many Israeli bystanders participated, (more than the 4 who got "community service"...also: giving community service for a lynching is an insult to the victim), IMO, 103: 244: 398: 98: 465:
I provided a number of sources, they do cover the rest of the shooting as well. I keyworded Zarhum simply because that was a trivially notable aspect here - which should have been evident in a
381: 238: 449:
Your source seems to only think to mention the lynching. The only thing that is notable about this is given a paragraph, whereas the shooting itself has no sustained coverage at all.
197: 204: 310: 170: 165: 174: 350: 330: 157: 290: 56:
close. Some people (including the nom) support a rename, but nobody appears to support deletion at this point. AfD is not a great venue to debate a contentious
373:. An obvious one actually. The lynching of Zarhum (a rather rare case in Israel in which an innocent bystander was shot and then lynched and killed) generated 129: 582:
Apart from the arguments provided by my predecessors, who and which I agree with, I am a little worried about the nomination for deletion on 4 articles from
469:
prior to nomming this - the assertion in the nomination of no coverage being quite clearly false. There is an 18 minute award winning documentary as well -
144: 387: 733: 700: 683: 662: 639: 615: 595: 554: 536: 517: 502: 486: 459: 444: 429: 410: 362: 342: 322: 302: 282: 82: 391: 383: 259: 389: 226: 474: 161: 76: 124: 117: 17: 476: 220: 583: 153: 88: 138: 134: 216: 751: 40: 394: 266: 419:
Id be fine with an article on the lynching as that actually has sustained coverage, but that isnt what this is.
602: 523: 232: 70: 374: 747: 729: 635: 36: 395:
Zehavi, Adar. Migration through the Membrane of the Israeli Law. Diss. University of Amsterdam, 2017
275: 591: 252: 717: 713: 466: 377: 57: 529: 495: 452: 422: 279: 658: 550: 513: 482: 440: 406: 358: 338: 318: 298: 113: 66: 29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
746:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
706: 385: 62: 53: 35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
725: 696: 631: 611: 671: 679: 587: 653:
as per arguments above, there is significant coverage including a documentary film.
654: 546: 509: 478: 436: 402: 354: 334: 314: 294: 191: 692: 607: 675: 522:
Im sorry, Im just confused. You previously wrote that newspaper articles are
104:
Articles for deletion/Beersheva bus station shooting (2nd nomination)
278:- no significant sustained coverage in reliable secondary sources 691:- significant coverage, international wide significance. WP:GNG, 742:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
60:
rename discussion. I will procedurally open an RM discussion.
508:
Nope, secondary. As is the documemtary and analysis of it.
670:
Article seems well sourced to me. In my opinion passes
526:
and do not establish notability. Is that not the case?
187: 183: 179: 251: 586:
by one and the same editor, whose POV is well-known.
99:
Articles for deletion/Beersheva bus station shooting
265: 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 754:). No further edits should be made to this page. 349:Note: This discussion has been included in the 329:Note: This discussion has been included in the 309:Note: This discussion has been included in the 289:Note: This discussion has been included in the 311:list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions 8: 145:Help, my article got nominated for deletion! 473:which covers the entire event as one event. 351:list of Events-related deletion discussions 331:list of Israel-related deletion discussions 348: 328: 308: 291:list of Crime-related deletion discussions 288: 96: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 95: 24: 724:that a film was made on subject. 130:Introduction to deletion process 584:Category:Palestinian terrorism 435:Part and parcel of this event. 154:Beersheva bus station shooting 89:Beersheva bus station shooting 1: 734:22:11, 15 December 2018 (UTC) 701:22:58, 13 December 2018 (UTC) 684:18:20, 12 December 2018 (UTC) 663:01:21, 12 December 2018 (UTC) 640:19:28, 14 December 2018 (UTC) 616:20:43, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 596:20:00, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 555:22:24, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 537:22:14, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 518:22:01, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 503:21:57, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 487:21:43, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 460:21:20, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 445:20:58, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 430:20:54, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 411:17:02, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 363:17:13, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 343:16:54, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 323:16:54, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 303:16:54, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 283:16:52, 11 December 2018 (UTC) 83:04:15, 16 December 2018 (UTC) 120:(AfD)? Read these primers! 771: 603:Lynching of Haftom Zarhum 744:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 94:AfDs for this article: 471:Death in the Terminal 118:Articles for deletion 63:(non-admin closure) 539: 505: 462: 432: 365: 345: 325: 305: 135:Guide to deletion 125:How to contribute 65: 762: 532: 527: 498: 493: 455: 450: 425: 420: 270: 269: 255: 207: 195: 177: 115: 79: 73: 61: 34: 770: 769: 765: 764: 763: 761: 760: 759: 758: 752:deletion review 600:Change name to 530: 496: 453: 423: 212: 203: 168: 152: 149: 112: 109: 92: 77: 71: 48:The result was 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 768: 766: 757: 756: 738: 737: 703: 686: 665: 647: 646: 645: 644: 643: 642: 619: 618: 598: 576: 575: 574: 573: 572: 571: 570: 569: 568: 567: 566: 565: 564: 563: 562: 561: 560: 559: 558: 557: 524:WP:PRIMARYNEWS 414: 413: 401:for instance. 367: 366: 346: 326: 306: 273: 272: 209: 148: 147: 142: 132: 127: 110: 108: 107: 106: 101: 93: 91: 86: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 767: 755: 753: 749: 745: 740: 739: 736: 735: 731: 727: 721: 719: 715: 709: 708: 704: 702: 698: 694: 690: 687: 685: 681: 677: 673: 669: 666: 664: 660: 656: 652: 649: 648: 641: 637: 633: 628: 625: 624: 623: 622: 621: 620: 617: 613: 609: 605: 604: 599: 597: 593: 589: 585: 581: 578: 577: 556: 552: 548: 543: 542: 541: 540: 538: 534: 533: 525: 521: 520: 519: 515: 511: 507: 506: 504: 500: 499: 490: 489: 488: 484: 480: 477: 475: 472: 468: 464: 463: 461: 457: 456: 448: 447: 446: 442: 438: 434: 433: 431: 427: 426: 418: 417: 416: 415: 412: 408: 404: 400: 396: 392: 390: 388: 386: 384: 382: 379: 376: 372: 369: 368: 364: 360: 356: 352: 347: 344: 340: 336: 332: 327: 324: 320: 316: 312: 307: 304: 300: 296: 292: 287: 286: 285: 284: 281: 277: 268: 264: 261: 258: 254: 250: 246: 243: 240: 237: 234: 231: 228: 225: 222: 218: 215: 214:Find sources: 210: 206: 202: 199: 193: 189: 185: 181: 176: 172: 167: 163: 159: 155: 151: 150: 146: 143: 140: 136: 133: 131: 128: 126: 123: 122: 121: 119: 114: 105: 102: 100: 97: 90: 87: 85: 84: 80: 74: 68: 64: 59: 55: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 743: 741: 723: 711: 705: 688: 667: 650: 626: 601: 579: 528: 494: 470: 451: 421: 375:WP:SUSTAINED 370: 274: 262: 256: 248: 241: 235: 229: 223: 213: 200: 111: 67:power~enwiki 49: 47: 31: 28: 726:E.M.Gregory 632:E.M.Gregory 239:free images 545:newspaper. 276:WP:NOTNEWS 748:talk page 718:WP:SIGCOV 714:WP:NCRIME 588:Debresser 467:WP:BEFORE 399:this book 378:WP:SIGCOV 355:• Gene93k 58:WP:ARBPIA 37:talk page 750:or in a 531:nableezy 497:nableezy 454:nableezy 424:nableezy 280:Nableezy 198:View log 139:glossary 39:or in a 712:passes 707:WP:SNOW 655:Melcous 547:Icewhiz 510:Icewhiz 479:Icewhiz 437:Icewhiz 403:Icewhiz 335:Icewhiz 315:Icewhiz 295:Icewhiz 245:WP refs 233:scholar 171:protect 166:history 116:New to 54:WP:SNOW 720:, and 693:BabbaQ 672:WP:GNG 608:Huldra 217:Google 175:delete 676:Govvy 393:Also 260:JSTOR 221:books 205:Stats 192:views 184:watch 180:links 16:< 730:talk 722:note 710:Keep 697:talk 689:Keep 680:talk 668:Keep 659:talk 651:Keep 636:talk 627:Note 612:talk 592:talk 580:Keep 551:talk 514:talk 483:talk 441:talk 407:talk 371:Keep 359:talk 339:talk 319:talk 299:talk 253:FENS 227:news 188:logs 162:talk 158:edit 50:keep 397:or 267:TWL 196:– ( 732:) 716:, 699:) 682:) 674:. 661:) 638:) 614:) 594:) 553:) 535:- 516:) 501:- 485:) 458:- 443:) 428:- 409:) 380:- 361:) 353:. 341:) 333:. 321:) 313:. 301:) 293:. 247:) 190:| 186:| 182:| 178:| 173:| 169:| 164:| 160:| 81:) 75:, 52:. 728:( 695:( 678:( 657:( 634:( 610:( 590:( 549:( 512:( 481:( 439:( 405:( 357:( 337:( 317:( 297:( 271:) 263:· 257:· 249:· 242:· 236:· 230:· 224:· 219:( 211:( 208:) 201:· 194:) 156:( 141:) 137:( 78:ν 72:π 69:(

Index

Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
talk page
deletion review
WP:SNOW
WP:ARBPIA
(non-admin closure)
power~enwiki
π
ν
04:15, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
Beersheva bus station shooting
Articles for deletion/Beersheva bus station shooting
Articles for deletion/Beersheva bus station shooting (2nd nomination)

Articles for deletion
How to contribute
Introduction to deletion process
Guide to deletion
glossary
Help, my article got nominated for deletion!
Beersheva bus station shooting
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.