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407:: The referencing is far from being wiki featured article status. All there is, is "see also" section at the bottom. A quick glance at those "reference" appear to be extremely relevant and have most of the information from this article. The problem I believe that Lijnema brings, I believe is not that the Article should be delete because of Original Research because he hasn't take the time to verify the information. And who would... it's a mess non-properly referenced , as per 714:
since it describe even better the actions that are considered griefing, for example in my game server we have this list: Leeching, Kill Stealing, Teamkilling, Stealing dropped items, Spawncamping, Suiciding. In short terms saying that griefing is forbidden is easy to make sure that you cover any lame action that a player could do.
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I disagree, an article has to provide sources. Just look at the three "criteria", where did they come from? Google says that they're not to be found anywhere else. I really think the article needs to be deleted or completely brought down to a stub. I'm not contesting the existance of the term, it's
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This artice is very useful to me and I'm linking to it from my website for all the players of my game server to know what's against the rules. If you are going to merge it in the page with the list of slang, make sure that there is griefing and not only griefer. I still suggest to keep this page
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material. Hence I understand the nomination. I however, do not accept it, as I previously voted keep. That means I believe that with a little work, a party of interest to the article should add the references. I think AfD should have to categories of deletion. I don't think the article should be
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Although the three criteria are not so clearly displayed, an astute reader can identify all requirements. The paper does seem to suggest there are more but I believe that some are clearly condensed. It needed a some better external sources referenced. I've taken the liberty of supporting the
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It may be neologism by hard and fast criteria, but the fact of the matter is that Knowledge allows things to be documented more quickly than an encyclopedia. This means that neologism is likely to creep in. That said, 'griefer' and 'griefing' are important terms used in the context of
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original reaserch. This article has a number of citations that source a number of its statements; and, as just shown by RiseRobotRise, the potential for more citations exists. The article admittedly needs trimming to remove OR, but it needs fixing, not deletion.
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The article is original reseearch but the term is a commonly used term among gamers. I would support if the article were changed to a stub with references and focused on what different companies do to try and get rid of "griefers". One such example is
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This is a non-noteworthy neologism. If it belongs anywere, it should be in some dictionary of computer slang terms. Perhaps some brief mention of the term in a larger article about online gaming might be warranted but not as a stand-along article.
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is used on the internet. Troll is as much of a neologism as Griefer. If we delete griefer, lets delete troll too. And while everyone is tagging everything for deletion, I wonder if we shouldn't have people wandering around tagging things to be
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I see several references kicking around in there that indicate this term has been out there, and it appears to be more than just a dicdef thanks to some of the historical bits. But, I'm torn as to whether it's really notable on its own.
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Seems to be a newer but notable slang term...but only in certain circles. I personally don't have a problem with it. The sources seem legit, and the term seems notable...but Knowledge will survive without it.
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while it may be a neologism... its a neologism thats been used by numerous media sources. The potential for referencing exists. When there is a potential, reference it ... dont delete it!
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a valid sole reason for deleting an article. But that's not the problem here. The problem here is that this term doesn't belong in an encyclopedia but rather a dictionary. --
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deleted but, if you follow WP:CITE, WP:OR, WP:V all these rules are interlinked and hence if one is violated they may all be violated. I personnaly believe the problem is
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you can find alot of information yourselves from this search. Surely, we can look beyond what we see as original research, and verify the information ourselves.
269:: I don't think the nomination for this deletion is completly fair. There are "see also" sections which has some type of reference to the term itself. -- 623:
Please. The recent incident on Second Life involving Anshe Chung being attacked by griefers was reported on internationally. We need this article.
717: 309: 321: 677: 536:, its a word that has been covered by the public media: LA Times, Toronto Star, etc. See references section. It's also mentioned in 721: 303: 17: 699: 350:
all the original research I'm not liking, and original research is a reason to nominate an article for deletion as per
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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information provided with the active policies of one of the top five biggest online gaming companies.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
579: 492: 239: 162: 148: 465: 644:, it may be a neologism, but it's a notable neologism with plenty of sources out there. 645: 624: 546: 478: 413: 336: 205: 692: 612: 594: 533: 516: 453: 421: 408: 367: 270: 201: 452:
per Starblind. Not notable enough on its own, it fits in better as part of a list.--
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So what about orginal research, that shouldn't be the sole grounds for deletion.
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There's plenty of information out there that can be used as a refrence such as
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References have been added and this article need trimming and cleanup.--
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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a common term, but dictionary entries are covered by
515:and redirect is about the best I can come up with. 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 749:). No further edits should be made to this page. 382:A distinction should be made between articles 196:. No need to merge, it's already there. It 8: 436:per the well thought out explanation of 632:"'Keep'" it's is extremely useful. -- 7: 304:Google yields many results for this 691:as it is notable and well-cited. — 24: 416:and not, as per the nomination, 532:While it appears to fall under 489:Just needs to have references. 172:Weak delete per Banana04131 -- 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 578:. 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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Mailer Diablo
09:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Griefer
Griefer
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
original research
Lijnema
00:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Research paper of griefing
here
Banana04131
00:29, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Banana04131
01:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Selmo
00:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
List of online-gaming slang
WP:NOT
Andrew Lenahan

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